Comments on: THF Countdown #24: 2004 http://www.tarheelblog.com/2008/07/thf-countdown-24-2004/ Thu, 17 May 2012 12:22:57 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Wilf http://www.tarheelblog.com/2008/07/thf-countdown-24-2004/comment-page-1/#comment-10756 Wilf Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:21:50 +0000 http://www.tarheelfanblog.com/?p=1599#comment-10756 What better than "Roy won his title with some of Doherty's players"? To have overcome the problems the program was going thru was nothing short of sensational.I saw some stuff about Coach Doherty not long ago. I hope he does well and can come back to Chapel Hill as part of the Carolina Basketball family with pride. It was in my opinion a little too early for all the pressure of a major program. He should have asked for Dean's guidance. What better than “Roy won his title with some of Doherty’s players”? To have overcome the problems the program was going thru was nothing short of sensational.I saw some stuff about Coach Doherty not long ago. I hope he does well and can come back to Chapel Hill as part of the Carolina Basketball family with pride. It was in my opinion a little too early for all the pressure of a major program. He should have asked for Dean’s guidance.

]]> By: keithunc http://www.tarheelblog.com/2008/07/thf-countdown-24-2004/comment-page-1/#comment-10739 keithunc Thu, 03 Jul 2008 17:01:10 +0000 http://www.tarheelfanblog.com/?p=1599#comment-10739 I LOVE talking Heels basketball in JULY!!! Thanks for everything you all do for this site. I LOVE talking Heels basketball in JULY!!! Thanks for everything you all do for this site.

]]> By: Tar Heel Fan http://www.tarheelblog.com/2008/07/thf-countdown-24-2004/comment-page-1/#comment-10737 Tar Heel Fan Thu, 03 Jul 2008 14:35:50 +0000 http://www.tarheelfanblog.com/?p=1599#comment-10737 And no three guys felt better than Jackie, Jawad and Melvin having endured the worst UNC season since the 1920s and capped off their careers with a title. And no three guys felt better than Jackie, Jawad and Melvin having endured the worst UNC season since the 1920s and capped off their careers with a title.

]]> By: C. Michael http://www.tarheelblog.com/2008/07/thf-countdown-24-2004/comment-page-1/#comment-10736 C. Michael Thu, 03 Jul 2008 14:25:59 +0000 http://www.tarheelfanblog.com/?p=1599#comment-10736 I think it is not too much of a stretch to say that no Senior class ever has, or (hopefully!) ever will, appreciate a title run as much as Fiddler's class did. I think it is not too much of a stretch to say that no Senior class ever has, or (hopefully!) ever will, appreciate a title run as much as Fiddler’s class did.

]]> By: FiddlerCrab215 http://www.tarheelblog.com/2008/07/thf-countdown-24-2004/comment-page-1/#comment-10735 FiddlerCrab215 Thu, 03 Jul 2008 13:03:52 +0000 http://www.tarheelfanblog.com/?p=1599#comment-10735 my freshman, sophomore, and junior years at carolina were #'s 27, 26, and 24, respectively. however, '05 was my senior year in chapel hill. so can i really complain? god bless roy williams. my freshman, sophomore, and junior years at carolina were #’s 27, 26, and 24, respectively. however, ’05 was my senior year in chapel hill. so can i really complain?

god bless roy williams.

]]> By: Tar Heel Fan http://www.tarheelblog.com/2008/07/thf-countdown-24-2004/comment-page-1/#comment-10734 Tar Heel Fan Thu, 03 Jul 2008 12:53:29 +0000 http://www.tarheelfanblog.com/?p=1599#comment-10734 Sean May is on record as having told Roy heading into 2005 that it was obvious certain players on the team were a bit sensitive and if Roy ever needed a player to call out or make an example of then use him. I am persistently amazed at the number of folks who trot out the "Roy never won a title with his own players" like that is some sort of indictment against him. In my opinion it is more difficult to come in and win a title in your 2nd year with players brought in by a different coach using a different system. It takes a great coach to walk into the situation UNC had, assume command and get everyone functioning on the same page by the 2nd season to the point they win a title. Roy may not have recruited those players(save QT and Marvin) but that was his team when they won the ring. Sean May is on record as having told Roy heading into 2005 that it was obvious certain players on the team were a bit sensitive and if Roy ever needed a player to call out or make an example of then use him. I am persistently amazed at the number of folks who trot out the “Roy never won a title with his own players” like that is some sort of indictment against him. In my opinion it is more difficult to come in and win a title in your 2nd year with players brought in by a different coach using a different system. It takes a great coach to walk into the situation UNC had, assume command and get everyone functioning on the same page by the 2nd season to the point they win a title. Roy may not have recruited those players(save QT and Marvin) but that was his team when they won the ring.

]]> By: wb3 http://www.tarheelblog.com/2008/07/thf-countdown-24-2004/comment-page-1/#comment-10732 wb3 Thu, 03 Jul 2008 12:42:58 +0000 http://www.tarheelfanblog.com/?p=1599#comment-10732 This season is very well documented in Adam Lucas' book "Coming Home Again." If you all haven't read it, you should. This season is very well documented in Adam Lucas’ book
“Coming Home Again.” If you all haven’t read it, you should.

]]> By: Asheville Heel http://www.tarheelblog.com/2008/07/thf-countdown-24-2004/comment-page-1/#comment-10731 Asheville Heel Thu, 03 Jul 2008 12:38:10 +0000 http://www.tarheelfanblog.com/?p=1599#comment-10731 This was a rugged year for the players and coaches. The only player that bought into Roy's system from day one was Jackie Manuel and he is the one who was told he could not shoot anything but lay-ups. May had considerd transferring to Indiana and all of the players were asked to do things they had never done before. McCants was a nightmare to deal with no matter what the coaches said publicly. I went to the Clemson game in Clemson. As is Roy's habit, he came out during early warm-ups to greet the parents sitting behind the bench and McCants' father turned his back on Roy and refused to speak to him. McCants himself could be a good kid but the guidance he was getting from other sources was not helpful. It's no secret that McCants was being "encouraged" to leave after the season whether the team won the NC or not. Once the season was over Roy told his friends that it was by far his toughest year as a coach. The payoff for all of the stuff from this year was all worth it the next! This was a rugged year for the players and coaches. The only player that bought into Roy’s system from day one was Jackie Manuel and he is the one who was told he could not shoot anything but lay-ups. May had considerd transferring to Indiana and all of the players were asked to do things they had never done before. McCants was a nightmare to deal with no matter what the coaches said publicly. I went to the Clemson game in Clemson. As is Roy’s habit, he came out during early warm-ups to greet the parents sitting behind the bench and McCants’ father turned his back on Roy and refused to speak to him. McCants himself could be a good kid but the guidance he was getting from other sources was not helpful. It’s no secret that McCants was being “encouraged” to leave after the season whether the team won the NC or not. Once the season was over Roy told his friends that it was by far his toughest year as a coach. The payoff for all of the stuff from this year was all worth it the next!

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