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ACC Wants 10 Day Limit on Draft Decisions

Something tells me Roy Williams has been talking John Swofford up on this.

The ACC plans to propose NCAA legislation that would force men’s basketball underclassmen to decide within seven to 10 days after the NCAA title game whether they are leaving for the NBA draft. ACC officials are considering submitting the proposal to the NCAA board of directors meeting Thursday; otherwise, they will propose the idea in July.

Under the legislation, “there would be no grace period – either you’re in or you’re out,” said Karl Hicks, the ACC’s associate commissioner for basketball operations. “We feel that’s what would work best for the student athletes and that’s what would work best for the coaches.”

The change would significantly shorten the time coaches and players have to wait on pins and needles to know their respective futures. Last season, for instance, the national championship game was played April7. Under NBA rules, underclassmen had until April27 to submit their names for the draft. If they didn’t hire agents, they had until June16 to withdraw.

Players couldn’t actually work out with prospective teams until the pre-draft camp in late May. Meanwhile, the spring period to sign basketball recruits began April16 – without college coaches knowing whether they had any scholarships to offer.

Roy has made no bones about the fact that the whole “testing the water” process pretty much ruined his summer.  There is merit to the argument.  Coaches have to sit around, twiddling their thumbs for 10 weeks while this process plays out.  Meanwhile they have no idea who they will have back nor what scholarships they will have available.  What is interesting is the degree this completely undermines the whole pre-draft process as a means of gathering information so players can make informed decisions.  Players will have to commit without the information they can get now by going to camps and workouts.  It will pretty much reset the state of the process to where it was a few years ago when you were either in or out.

And let’s call a spade, a spade, this legislation is designed to benefit the coaches who are trying to run a program.  Roy, K and others really do not enjoy being hamstrung until the middle of June wondering if their star point guard is coming back or not.  The intent here is to cut through the crap and get these decisions resolved very close to the end of the season rather than months later so life can go on.  And in response to that argument you will likely see something like this:

What about the kids?  You are hurting the kids!  They will make horrid and ill-informed decisions because NBA GMs are immensely stupid in how they use their draft picks.  You need to make sure these kids have plenty of feedback to make an informed decision.

What’s funny is in football the deadline is basically 7-10 days after the BCS title game.  I never hear a hue and cry over football players making ill-advised decisions.  Maybe the fact those players need to wait three years out of high school before they can enter the draft means 10 weeks of workouts is largely unnecessary to determine a player’s stock.  Imagine that.  Using the college game to develop and evaluate players for the next level.  Seems to work pretty well for the NFL.  Baseball too.  Something tells me this legislation is intended to force the NBA’s hand on the age limit.

And I think it has zero chance of passing.

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6 comments to ACC Wants 10 Day Limit on Draft Decisions

  • wb3

    As for the comparison with football, I suppose a testing the waters period isn’t possible because it would be in the middle of a semester. In basketball, the period is so long because they need to wait for the kids to get out of school, which at some places is towards the end of May or June 1.

    Another difference is that football players can only give up a maximum one year of eligibility, basketball being three.

    Given that it is both possible scheduling-wise and probably more important in basketball with freshman eligibility, the question becomes should testing the waters be outlawed? Certainly, it would be easier on the coach. For a North Carolina, one might make the argument that it is not necessary. But around the country, I am sure there are kids every year that inflate their own ability or are desparate for the money. For those kids, the system is probably helpful.

    Another option would be to shorten the process. Say, once the season is over, teams can schedule a private workout on campus for two weeks, at their option. Then, its in or out. That is essentially what they are doing now, minus all the bells, whistles, and waiting around.

    Roy is correct that is tough to be hamstrung

  • keithunc

    I like it for me knowing who’s in or out but I think in the long run or even this summer it hurts Carolina. If it was in effect this summer were out three very important guys. With the testing the water the players get a fair shake if they are going to be drafted. For sure Lawson would have stayed and I imagine Danny was gone as well. Bad for us good for Roy. If this rule scares more kids to stay then I’m for it but…I think Carolina losses more guys this way.

  • I agree with that but I think this is a move on the chess board and rightfully it comes from the conference generally hit the most by early defections. The NBA loves the current setup. They get a year long period of evaluating players against good competition and then they get another two months to really test them all while maintaining the semblance of fairness and looking out for the kids by working with the NCAA to allow these guys to stay eligible.

    My vote is for the baseball rule.

  • DSchwind

    I have to say, I understand why Roy and the ACC would want this, but I think it’s a terrible idea. Think about it. If we had it this year, right now we’d be almost assuredly be starting the season without Ty Lawson and Wayne Ellington, probably without Danny Green and maybe even without Tyler. That would be no fun.

    I think the best idea would be the baseball rule as you mentioned, THF. But I know that’s not happening, so my next suggestion would be a compromise of shortening the period by about a month to late May. That gives the players enough time to do workouts and weigh their options without giving them so little time that they rush into stupid decisions. (Which, admittedly, some of them do anyway.)

  • mtime04

    I’m curious, how many scholarships are you allowed to have?