Comments on: The Scholarship Numbers Game

By: badbadleroybrown

badbadleroybrown — Fri, 12 Dec 2008 14:11:27 +0000

It is a tough job and there’s no doubt that it’s more than a full time job. You just have to love the logic – he doesn’t care about the kids. I know of at least one scholarship BD awarded mid-season to an existing player. How should that be addressed in the media or with State fans? I am in total agreement on the State comment – don’t care, good luck with your own team.

Go Heels!

By: Heels Perspective

Heels Perspective — Fri, 12 Dec 2008 13:34:59 +0000

I think the article did a good job of explaning what happens on most teams to a degree. Of course, State fans are melting down due to their over concern of all things that happen at UNC.

Just a reminder that TOB was cleaning house this past year with several transfers and players simply being dismissed from the program. TOB’s famous “we are a performanced based organization” are viewed by State fan as TOB’s Marine like toughness, etc. BD and staff are doing the same, in fact, BD and staff are giving lots of players chances at positions that Bunting would never dreamed of.

If one looks at the numbers and digs a little bit (even without inside knowledge) I think we are losing 18 players. That would leave 5 spots (doubt D Tate will sign) for decommits and non qualifiers.

By position we lose (I predict)
1 QB Paulus (and possibly Hansen to transfer)
1 FB Rome
1 TE Quinn
5 WR (including Thornton)
4 OL
3 LB (including Tinsley) I’ll bet one of the younger ones transfers as well
1 CB (Rich)
1 S
1 Punter

By: JBowling

JBowling — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 23:02:43 +0000

I hope it doesn’t become an issue. I thought this was common and wouldn’t be newsworthy. I guess I was wrong. I am holding out optimism this will die, but it may come back to bit us. You can never tell til signing day.

By: rathskellar68

rathskellar68 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:07:54 +0000

NC State has a lot of brass to be talking. I mean, for cryin’ out loud, they recruit cows.

Oh, wait, my wife reminds me that that’s for the FACULTY.

By: PRGuy

PRGuy — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:56:40 +0000

Dave Glenn on 850 the Buzz radio always points out that even on signing day, not all those players will end up enrolled in the fall. Mainly for academic reasons, some go to prep school, some go to junior college, etc. As for the Heels, everything will work out like they always do.

By: CLTHeel

CLTHeel — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:52:58 +0000

Also in the beginning of the Era that shall not be mentioned by THF, our coach did not understand the recruiting game as well as Amato did. He asked why did Chuck say he got more than he can talk, only to see all the things talked about here come to pass and remain under the limit. Now if you dump a poor performer for a better player, well I have tow thoughts on that. First, would anyone complain if we dumped a poor performer and there were extra scholarships, I doubt it. Second if we dump a poor player just to get a better one, it would tend to tell the others, coach really does not care about me and kids stop coming. Again it has been said this i s a very complicated business and one I am glad to watch from the sidelines.

By: HeelYeah

HeelYeah — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:48:39 +0000

The day I give a horse’s ****** what State folks think will be the day that they win another NCAA title in basketball. I expect that to be a long time.

I don’t think Butch is dumb enough to get into the habit of cutting scholarships due to poor performance on the field, as long as the player is giving the effort. That would lead to players thinking twice about committing, and who wants that? This sounds like a standard route that many schools take, no big deal.

It’s just another case of Wolfpackers trying to stir up some dust. I think they need to spend some time thinking about Rutgers and how they are going to handle ACC play in basketball with a division 2 point guard running the show.

By: DSchwind

DSchwind — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:32:33 +0000

State’s just pissed because they couldn’t get enough players to fill their scholarship allotment to begin with this year. UNC is hardly the only school that overcommits. That same article points out that dook is already up to 26 commits.

It’s simple business strategy and it’s the same way you book an airline. When a flight is booked, if there are 225 available seats, they’ll sell up to 235 seats on the assumption that some people aren’t going to make the flight for whatever reason.

Similarly, football coaches have to do the same thing. Transfers will play a role. (I guarantee Mike Paulus is gone this offseason) Players won’t make the team initially because of eligibility concerns or qualification concerns. And let’s not forget that verbal commits aren’t binding, so I’m willing to bet at least a couple of the current commits ends up signing with another school on the first Wednesday in February. After all, UNC’s own Greg Little was a Notre Dame commit until the day before Signing Day 2007.