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		<title>By: william</title>
		<link>http://www.tarheelblog.com/2009/01/about-last-night/comment-page-1/#comment-14735</link>
		<dc:creator>william</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 20:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tend not to count the results in the ACC tourney since those actually often mean less than regular season games for programs like Carolina and Kansas in the Big 8-12.  

I think the 2005 Heels had zero desire to play Duke again a week later when they were still trying to get McCants back into the line-up.  1993 shows the dangers of trying too hard in the ACC tourney where we lost Phelps in the Semi&#039;s but luckily he was back for the NCAA tourney.

Dean tended not to focus on the tournament, which he said made Carolina&#039;s defeat in 1987 to NC State in the finals so heartbreaking, because he said, &quot;we were emphasizing the ACC tournament this year.&quot; 

Some years, like 1997, 1998, and 2007, an ACC tourney win was needed for a number one seed and the Heels came through great.  Other years, like 1984, 1987, 1993, 2005, and 2008, the Heels obviously had the seed wrapped up and generally didn&#039;t do so well in the ACC tourney.

Why should we care very much about the ACC tourney most of these years where it is essentially meaningless if Roy and Dean don&#039;t?  Try to win it but don&#039;t dive for balls or do anything dangerous, and if you win, great.  Unfortunately, this year, we might need to win it to get a number one or two seed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tend not to count the results in the ACC tourney since those actually often mean less than regular season games for programs like Carolina and Kansas in the Big 8-12.  </p>
<p>I think the 2005 Heels had zero desire to play Duke again a week later when they were still trying to get McCants back into the line-up.  1993 shows the dangers of trying too hard in the ACC tourney where we lost Phelps in the Semi&#8217;s but luckily he was back for the NCAA tourney.</p>
<p>Dean tended not to focus on the tournament, which he said made Carolina&#8217;s defeat in 1987 to NC State in the finals so heartbreaking, because he said, &#8220;we were emphasizing the ACC tournament this year.&#8221; </p>
<p>Some years, like 1997, 1998, and 2007, an ACC tourney win was needed for a number one seed and the Heels came through great.  Other years, like 1984, 1987, 1993, 2005, and 2008, the Heels obviously had the seed wrapped up and generally didn&#8217;t do so well in the ACC tourney.</p>
<p>Why should we care very much about the ACC tourney most of these years where it is essentially meaningless if Roy and Dean don&#8217;t?  Try to win it but don&#8217;t dive for balls or do anything dangerous, and if you win, great.  Unfortunately, this year, we might need to win it to get a number one or two seed.</p>
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		<title>By: Tar Heel Fan</title>
		<link>http://www.tarheelblog.com/2009/01/about-last-night/comment-page-1/#comment-14733</link>
		<dc:creator>Tar Heel Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 19:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It also important to remember that the NCAA Tournament is about matchups and how the bracket breaks.  For all we know UNC might get a favorable path through via upsets or the general poor play of another team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It also important to remember that the NCAA Tournament is about matchups and how the bracket breaks.  For all we know UNC might get a favorable path through via upsets or the general poor play of another team.</p>
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		<title>By: chuckheel85</title>
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		<dc:creator>chuckheel85</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 19:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>William,
Also don&#039;t forget the 1982 team barely beat James Madison by two points in the first round of the tournament. The 1993 was taken to the brink by Cincinnati in the East Regional Finals. In 2005 they also got blown out by Wake Forest. Got taken to the brink by Clemson in the first round of the tournament and got beat the next day by Ga Tech. They also almost blew a 10 point lead to Villanova in the Sweet 16 and gave up almost 80 points to Wisconsin, which definitely wasn&#039;t an offensive juggernaut.
I think with Roy Williams&#039; style of play, especially ont he defensive end, Carolina is going to have games where they give up numbers to team that shouldn&#039;t get those numbers, i.e., BC. But, in the long run, Carolina will be battle tested once the tournament rolls around and I think they&#039;ll win it this year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>William,<br />
Also don&#8217;t forget the 1982 team barely beat James Madison by two points in the first round of the tournament. The 1993 was taken to the brink by Cincinnati in the East Regional Finals. In 2005 they also got blown out by Wake Forest. Got taken to the brink by Clemson in the first round of the tournament and got beat the next day by Ga Tech. They also almost blew a 10 point lead to Villanova in the Sweet 16 and gave up almost 80 points to Wisconsin, which definitely wasn&#8217;t an offensive juggernaut.<br />
I think with Roy Williams&#8217; style of play, especially ont he defensive end, Carolina is going to have games where they give up numbers to team that shouldn&#8217;t get those numbers, i.e., BC. But, in the long run, Carolina will be battle tested once the tournament rolls around and I think they&#8217;ll win it this year.</p>
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		<title>By: william</title>
		<link>http://www.tarheelblog.com/2009/01/about-last-night/comment-page-1/#comment-14729</link>
		<dc:creator>william</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 19:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are right, it hasn&#039;t.  I am just talking about the perception.  

The 1982 team only lost one game with its line-up intact, but it was a whopper where they got killed by Virginia.  They also had to go to overtime to beat Penn State, who was not a basketball power.    

The 2005 lost to the national runners-up, GIT, in a somewhat meaningless game and also on the road against two top five teams.  The Santa Clara game defies comprehension, even without Felton.  

In 1993, both of the losses to Wake and Duke were avenged in easy wins.  Once again, the loss that year to GIT was somewhat meaningless.

I follow basketball as much as anyone and I tend to forget the absurd results that Carolina teams have had through the years:  the loss to William &amp; Mary by one of Phil Ford&#039;s teams; the almost invariable losses to mediocre Wake teams in the early 70&#039;s.

In 1967, UNC went to the Final Four.  On February 17th they played South Carolina in Charlotte and torched them 80-55.  Only two weeks later they played them in Columbia, and lost 70-57.  What the heck happened there?  You can find very similar types of things all through out their history.  Perhaps there is just so much more coverage of things that we lose perspective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are right, it hasn&#8217;t.  I am just talking about the perception.  </p>
<p>The 1982 team only lost one game with its line-up intact, but it was a whopper where they got killed by Virginia.  They also had to go to overtime to beat Penn State, who was not a basketball power.    </p>
<p>The 2005 lost to the national runners-up, GIT, in a somewhat meaningless game and also on the road against two top five teams.  The Santa Clara game defies comprehension, even without Felton.  </p>
<p>In 1993, both of the losses to Wake and Duke were avenged in easy wins.  Once again, the loss that year to GIT was somewhat meaningless.</p>
<p>I follow basketball as much as anyone and I tend to forget the absurd results that Carolina teams have had through the years:  the loss to William &amp; Mary by one of Phil Ford&#8217;s teams; the almost invariable losses to mediocre Wake teams in the early 70&#8242;s.</p>
<p>In 1967, UNC went to the Final Four.  On February 17th they played South Carolina in Charlotte and torched them 80-55.  Only two weeks later they played them in Columbia, and lost 70-57.  What the heck happened there?  You can find very similar types of things all through out their history.  Perhaps there is just so much more coverage of things that we lose perspective.</p>
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		<title>By: chuckheel85</title>
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		<dc:creator>chuckheel85</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 18:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>William,
That&#039;s what I&#039;m talking about right there. How did the season implode? The Heels are 14-2 and ranked No. 5 in the country. In their 14 teams wins, no one got within 15 points of them. The blew out Mich. State, Notre Dame, Kentucky...
Like I said, some Carolina fans, like my Aunt, tend to want to jump off a bridge whenever Carolina loses a game.
Reality has always been, North Carolina was not going to go undefeated. In 1982 they had two losses both in the conference, 1993 they had four losses, three in the conference and in 2005 they had four losses, three in the conference. But, each of those teams won the national championship. Carolina can still win the national championship.
How has the season imploded after only two conference losses? Explain your logic...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>William,<br />
That&#8217;s what I&#8217;m talking about right there. How did the season implode? The Heels are 14-2 and ranked No. 5 in the country. In their 14 teams wins, no one got within 15 points of them. The blew out Mich. State, Notre Dame, Kentucky&#8230;<br />
Like I said, some Carolina fans, like my Aunt, tend to want to jump off a bridge whenever Carolina loses a game.<br />
Reality has always been, North Carolina was not going to go undefeated. In 1982 they had two losses both in the conference, 1993 they had four losses, three in the conference and in 2005 they had four losses, three in the conference. But, each of those teams won the national championship. Carolina can still win the national championship.<br />
How has the season imploded after only two conference losses? Explain your logic&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: william</title>
		<link>http://www.tarheelblog.com/2009/01/about-last-night/comment-page-1/#comment-14704</link>
		<dc:creator>william</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think all the build-up creates frustration, too.  Maybe Carolina fans didn&#039;t necessarily expect an undefeated season but they didn&#039;t expect things to just implode without warning like that.

The media monster truly has two heads now, Duke and UNC and I am sure that some fans get tired of hearing about us.  

On the other hand, I think in every sport, whether it is the Celtics and Lakers, or the Yankees and Red Sox or the Cowboys and whoever else is good in their division that year, dynasties and rivalries create intense interest in the sport.  People tune in just to see Duke or UNC lose and it is an obvious compliment to our program and Duke&#039;s program.

One thing that I will say to the Wake fans, that I am stealing from Duke fans who chant it when they play Maryland, or at least they used to when Maryland was really good:  

&quot;You are not our rivals!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think all the build-up creates frustration, too.  Maybe Carolina fans didn&#8217;t necessarily expect an undefeated season but they didn&#8217;t expect things to just implode without warning like that.</p>
<p>The media monster truly has two heads now, Duke and UNC and I am sure that some fans get tired of hearing about us.  </p>
<p>On the other hand, I think in every sport, whether it is the Celtics and Lakers, or the Yankees and Red Sox or the Cowboys and whoever else is good in their division that year, dynasties and rivalries create intense interest in the sport.  People tune in just to see Duke or UNC lose and it is an obvious compliment to our program and Duke&#8217;s program.</p>
<p>One thing that I will say to the Wake fans, that I am stealing from Duke fans who chant it when they play Maryland, or at least they used to when Maryland was really good:  </p>
<p>&#8220;You are not our rivals!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HAHAHAHAHAHA

That nearly put diet coke all over my monitor!
Well said C. Michael.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HAHAHAHAHAHA</p>
<p>That nearly put diet coke all over my monitor!<br />
Well said C. Michael.</p>
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		<title>By: C. Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>C. Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 11:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think part of the reason UNC fans are too negative after losses is because we don&#039;t have enough practice...  I mean, just look how nonchalantly State fans absorb a loss!! ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think part of the reason UNC fans are too negative after losses is because we don&#8217;t have enough practice&#8230;  I mean, just look how nonchalantly State fans absorb a loss!! <img src='http://www.tarheelblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: chuckheel85</title>
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		<dc:creator>chuckheel85</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 06:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THF,
Some of the best news I got today was when I perused Carolina&#039;s remaining schedule. There is only one game left that appears on FoxSportsNet. I think I can speak for all Carolina fans when I say AMEN to that!!
For some reason, Carolina tends to play poorly on Fox. Last year they played bad against Clemson and had to rally to win on an Ellington jumper. This season both losses occurred on their network.
I know it is a silly superstition, but I think Carolina is going to do well the rest of the way.
I do think that Carolina fans, in general, tend to be TOO NEGATIVE after a loss. It is what teams do with those losses and if they improve that makes them better.
Under Roy, Carolina tends to improve its play after losses and learns from them. Under Matt Doherty and to a lesser extent, Bill Guthridge, Carolina tended to remain the same throughout with no improvement during the season. The same mistakes you saw November, you saw in March.
The Heels&#039; biggest problem last night was that their shots didn&#039;t fall, plain and simple. And I&#039;m not talking about the three&#039;s, I&#039;m talking about layups and short jumpers inside.
If they improve that, which I think they will, Carolina is still the odds on favorite to win it all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THF,<br />
Some of the best news I got today was when I perused Carolina&#8217;s remaining schedule. There is only one game left that appears on FoxSportsNet. I think I can speak for all Carolina fans when I say AMEN to that!!<br />
For some reason, Carolina tends to play poorly on Fox. Last year they played bad against Clemson and had to rally to win on an Ellington jumper. This season both losses occurred on their network.<br />
I know it is a silly superstition, but I think Carolina is going to do well the rest of the way.<br />
I do think that Carolina fans, in general, tend to be TOO NEGATIVE after a loss. It is what teams do with those losses and if they improve that makes them better.<br />
Under Roy, Carolina tends to improve its play after losses and learns from them. Under Matt Doherty and to a lesser extent, Bill Guthridge, Carolina tended to remain the same throughout with no improvement during the season. The same mistakes you saw November, you saw in March.<br />
The Heels&#8217; biggest problem last night was that their shots didn&#8217;t fall, plain and simple. And I&#8217;m not talking about the three&#8217;s, I&#8217;m talking about layups and short jumpers inside.<br />
If they improve that, which I think they will, Carolina is still the odds on favorite to win it all.</p>
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		<title>By: aerds84</title>
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		<dc:creator>aerds84</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 05:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THF-Thanks very much for the blog...it is excellent reading, nice to get different perspectives from various Heels fans.  I think you do a great job of giving synopses on games and the season as a whole.  I very much like reading your posts and the articles you dig up from other media outlets.

It has been a frustrating 7-8 days of the season, but I&#039;m keeping the faith in Roy and the boys to move forward and finish the season strong.  GO HEELS!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THF-Thanks very much for the blog&#8230;it is excellent reading, nice to get different perspectives from various Heels fans.  I think you do a great job of giving synopses on games and the season as a whole.  I very much like reading your posts and the articles you dig up from other media outlets.</p>
<p>It has been a frustrating 7-8 days of the season, but I&#8217;m keeping the faith in Roy and the boys to move forward and finish the season strong.  GO HEELS!</p>
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