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Bench Productivity A Concern

2005 had Marvin Williams, 2008 had Danny Green, 2009 has…well…I’m not sure.

From the N&O:

North Carolina coach Roy Williams’ first rule for reserves is “Don’t hurt us,” followed immediately by the command “Do anything you can to help us.”

If the Tar Heels’ bench doesn’t start offering some help — particularly on offense — a question has emerged about how long before the hurting sets in.

Entering tonight’s game against No. 10-ranked Clemson (16-1, 2-1 ACC), Carolina’s reserves are averaging only a combined 12.3 points a game through UNC’s first four ACC contests. Those totals include a lowly six points in North Carolina’s win Thursday at Virginia. By comparison, forward Danny Green — UNC’s sixth man in 2007-08 — averaged 11.1 points in regular-season league games all by himself last season. The bench’s smallest output last season was four points in a Feb. 6 home loss against Duke.

That’s not exactly what was expected from the “deep” Tar Heels (16-2, 2-2) this season.

“We’ve gotten good play from different people,” Williams said. “I think Ed [Davis] comes in the game and again gives us the defensive stand and the rebounding, and that’s important to us. Bobby [Frasor] did a really nice job defensively on Saturday when he got in the game. But we haven’t had someone come in and give us the scoring punch, and we would like to have that, there’s no question.”

Davis has been a defensive force as a reserve, averaging a bench-high 5.8 points and 6.5 rebounds in conference play. And in the past, Williams has had defensive-minded players such as Jackie Manuel in 2003-04 and Marcus Ginyard in the latter part of 2005-06 serve as sixth men.

But UNC’s past two Final Four teams featured instant production off the bench — Marvin Williams, who averaged 11.3 points and 22.2 minutes on the 2004-05 national championship team, and Green last season.

“We don’t have that so far this year,” Williams said.

The question is, will they get it?

The dearth of reserve firepower stems from three factors:

* Ginyard’s October foot surgery and subsequent struggle to return to 100 percent pushed Green off the bench and into the starting lineup.

* Freshman forward Tyler Zeller, who displayed a strong scoring touch around the basket, broke his left wrist in the second game, probably sidelining him for the season.

* And then there’s the inconsistent shooting of Frasor, a senior, and sophomore Will Graves; they have shot a combined 7-for-24 in ACC games. They’re hoping that they can follow the example of starter Wayne Ellington, who shot out of his own scoring slump Saturday against Miami.

“It feels good when it comes off my fingertips,” Graves said. “It’s only a matter of time.”

If I had to place a bet I would bet on Will Graves being that guy.  We know he can shoot and he has also shown some athleticism that suprised the heck out of most people(remember the dunk of Ty Lawson’s inbound during the MSU game?)  Last season Graves shot 45% from three point range going 19-43.  This season he is at 29% on 10-34 shooting.  The issue with Graves is I am not convinced his defense is quite there.  Everyone keeps looking to Ed Davis as a possibility but Davis’ offensive game is not polished yet.  I guess that is where the argument for starting Davis and letting Deon Thompson be that offense coming off the bench comes in.  Roy has indicated that it is better for Thompson pyschologically to start so he will continue to do so.

The other reason the bench production is a concern lies in Roy’s original premise heading into the season.  The goal was for the Heels’ 2nd five to trump the opponent’s 2nd five.  Losing Marcus Ginyard and Tyler Zeller dealt a serious blow to that plan and with Bobby Frasor getting close to receiving the Jackie Manuel Directive, Larry Drew being a pass first PG, Davis being a beast on the boards but not with his shot and Graves’ inconsistency what you are left with is high hopes no one gets in foul trouble or that the defense becomes so stifling the offense will not be so stressed.

One other thing…

In the above link to Roy’s radio show, Zeller’s status was addressed and Roy is certain he does not play in a game this season.  The priority for the UNC coaches is to get Zeller back in practice so they can take advantage of him working on his game versus Tyler Hansbrough and also give the active players a quality center to go against.

There is still no word on Ginyard other than to say he will try to practice next week and they will go from there.  Roy wants him for this season and if he plays one more game he cannot redshirt since we are past the midway point of the season.

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9 comments to Bench Productivity A Concern

  • wb3

    As for bench play, I think they key is to have a low-post scoring option when the blue team is on the court. Because Deon stays on the court with that squad and Davis doesn’t seem too comfortable around the basket, I think the key is to get Deon going and the other plays can feed off of him. If that doesn’t happen, that unit will continue to have problems.

    I sure hope Marcus’ foot is better after 2.5 weeks of rehab.

    I think Roy knows Zeller couldn’t help much this season in any event, and is looking to the future with him. That long range vision for the program is probably pretty smart on Roy’s part. But I have a strange feeling that Zeller will be cleared for practice in early Feb. and will be up and running with the team in short order. I bet he will play in some 3-4 games at the end of the season and be ready for the tournament run.

  • Roy is acting like there is no plan to bring Zeller back and mentioned not wanting to burn the redshirt. I don’t think that matters since Zeller is going to go pro before his four years are up. You also have concerns about chemistry but if Ginyard does not make it back or is still hobbled then I think he has to considered getting Zeller going just for the sake of the interior defense which has been porous.

  • heeledsoul

    i don’t know. i don’t really see it as an issue. will, ed and drew (remember: he won the 3pt shooting contest in an all star event this past summer) are all nice 3rd option type players on the offense. and we typically have one or two starters out there. deon, when not forcing the shot, can be a good first or second option. plus, nothing stops coach roy from having our better scoring options (danny, tyler, wayne and ty) out there a few minutes longer when necessary.

    i hope zeller can play this year. i think he’s already participating in shooting drills. but i’ll take coach’s word for it.

  • MDTarheel

    If they follow Roy’s first rule ” Don’t hurt us.” I think they will be alright. Fraisor is taking good open shots that are just not falling. They need to be patience on offense and not do anything that leds to an easy bucket for the other team. Also play good defense. Roy will work the starters with them and hopefully this is where Deon will step up.

  • keithunc

    Zeller not staying 4 years? I know he only played a handful of games but I really saw nothing special. He’s tall, I’ll give him that but unpolished is something I would throw in there. My feeling is he’s a 4 year guy. Hopefully.

  • He is a seven footer and I disagree with your assessment. Zeller had excellent footwork and I think is going to be very good. Of course it was only two games but I think by his junior season he will be NBA ready and his size will make him coveted.

  • heeledsoul

    zeller not only has excellent footwork but he is also extremely speedy up and down the court. much more offensively polished than ed although lacking in defensive presence. zeller can add a few pounds of muscle to his frame and become more effective defensively. he’ll start by his red-shirt sophomore year (after deon’s departure), and i believe he has the skill set to put up some gaudy numbers in a fast paced offense.

  • keithunc

    I agree that he has great footwork but and I understand he is a freshman but I thought he didn’t play up to his size in the couple of games he got in. I’m sure after some weight on the old frame and a couple of years under his belt he’ll be great. I just think he’ll be a 4 year guy.

  • heeledsoul

    many people thought zeller would be better than ed. and zeller was starting over ed when hansbrough was out… now ed’s projected to leave after his soph or junior year. hopefully for the heels, zeller shows that much promise as soon as he steps back on the court.