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		<title>By: william</title>
		<link>http://www.tarheelblog.com/2009/01/you-think-this-is-bad/comment-page-1/#comment-14714</link>
		<dc:creator>william</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 15:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was pointed out as one of the main scheme differences between Smith and Williams by Adam Lucas in his book on Roy.  He noted that Smith did not think fighting through screens was worth the effort, but that Williams, perhaps consistent with his personality insisted that his players fight through them.

Smith was often criticized for not adapting but it seems to me that he adapted much more to the specific personality of the guys he had, versus Williams, who seems more like Bobby Knight, where everybody seems to do everything the same way from year to year.

Another thing that maybe I noticed when people on here were talking about the BC game is that there seems to be some confusion between trapping and pressing.  It seemed to me that pressing was fairly successful in that game, while trapping was not, but maybe I am the one who is making an incorrect distinction between two things that seem to look alike to most people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was pointed out as one of the main scheme differences between Smith and Williams by Adam Lucas in his book on Roy.  He noted that Smith did not think fighting through screens was worth the effort, but that Williams, perhaps consistent with his personality insisted that his players fight through them.</p>
<p>Smith was often criticized for not adapting but it seems to me that he adapted much more to the specific personality of the guys he had, versus Williams, who seems more like Bobby Knight, where everybody seems to do everything the same way from year to year.</p>
<p>Another thing that maybe I noticed when people on here were talking about the BC game is that there seems to be some confusion between trapping and pressing.  It seemed to me that pressing was fairly successful in that game, while trapping was not, but maybe I am the one who is making an incorrect distinction between two things that seem to look alike to most people.</p>
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		<title>By: Tar Heel Fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tar Heel Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 15:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do know that they switched on screens against Duke in the 2nd game because the pick and pop killed the Heels in Chapel Hill.  It seemed to work but it created some odd matchups like Hansbrough guarding Paulus or Nelson at times which he did a pretty good job at.  

I play every Monday night with a group of guys who are fairly decent.  We play straight man all the time and I do know that fighting through screens is physically more demanding and requires a lot of communication(which we do) and it also requires other players rotate on help defense.  There are instances we simply end up switching on screens and that seems to be much cleaner but it also creates mismatches in some cases.  I am speculating that it is the mismatches that make Roy a little leery of using it.  That being said, UNC players seem to have major problems rotating in time to stop open looks, especially on the perimeter so maybe switching more would work better.  

There has been talk ever since the Lawson class came in about the difficulty freshman would have learning the defensive scheme.  Roy has said it is a tad complicated.  I wonder if it needs to be simplified.  I don&#039;t know all the details and differences in the schemes they run and it may not be as simple just to say: Play straight man and switch on the screens. I do know the trap defense ain&#039;t working and leads to far too many easy baskets.

I will say that 18-22 elite basketball players with greater quickness, length and height guarding players of the same caliber probably calls for more in-depth defensive schemes that what a bunch of 30 year old guys do playing in a church gym.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do know that they switched on screens against Duke in the 2nd game because the pick and pop killed the Heels in Chapel Hill.  It seemed to work but it created some odd matchups like Hansbrough guarding Paulus or Nelson at times which he did a pretty good job at.  </p>
<p>I play every Monday night with a group of guys who are fairly decent.  We play straight man all the time and I do know that fighting through screens is physically more demanding and requires a lot of communication(which we do) and it also requires other players rotate on help defense.  There are instances we simply end up switching on screens and that seems to be much cleaner but it also creates mismatches in some cases.  I am speculating that it is the mismatches that make Roy a little leery of using it.  That being said, UNC players seem to have major problems rotating in time to stop open looks, especially on the perimeter so maybe switching more would work better.  </p>
<p>There has been talk ever since the Lawson class came in about the difficulty freshman would have learning the defensive scheme.  Roy has said it is a tad complicated.  I wonder if it needs to be simplified.  I don&#8217;t know all the details and differences in the schemes they run and it may not be as simple just to say: Play straight man and switch on the screens. I do know the trap defense ain&#8217;t working and leads to far too many easy baskets.</p>
<p>I will say that 18-22 elite basketball players with greater quickness, length and height guarding players of the same caliber probably calls for more in-depth defensive schemes that what a bunch of 30 year old guys do playing in a church gym.</p>
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		<title>By: 52bgJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>52bgJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 15:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jmo, but I believe switches and slides give a good ballhandler more time, options and vision. Fighting thru makes them execute more precisely, but if done sloppily, (by the help-side and on-ball players), can be destroyed. I like Roy&#039;s approach. One of the few gripes I had with Dean was (despite percentages), every now and then someone like Ga Tech (or NCSU) would absolutely shred us with 3&#039;s. Conversely, Roy&#039;s team seems susceptible to interior shredding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jmo, but I believe switches and slides give a good ballhandler more time, options and vision. Fighting thru makes them execute more precisely, but if done sloppily, (by the help-side and on-ball players), can be destroyed. I like Roy&#8217;s approach. One of the few gripes I had with Dean was (despite percentages), every now and then someone like Ga Tech (or NCSU) would absolutely shred us with 3&#8242;s. Conversely, Roy&#8217;s team seems susceptible to interior shredding.</p>
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		<title>By: william</title>
		<link>http://www.tarheelblog.com/2009/01/you-think-this-is-bad/comment-page-1/#comment-14708</link>
		<dc:creator>william</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 15:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is an interesting article on the official site about one of the main differences between Dean Smith and Roy Williams.  Williams insists that his players fight through screens while apparently Smith was bigger on switches and slide-throughs?  

Any of you guys who played or coached a lot, how about commenting on the relative benefits of these different approaches?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is an interesting article on the official site about one of the main differences between Dean Smith and Roy Williams.  Williams insists that his players fight through screens while apparently Smith was bigger on switches and slide-throughs?  </p>
<p>Any of you guys who played or coached a lot, how about commenting on the relative benefits of these different approaches?</p>
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		<title>By: Tar Heel Fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tar Heel Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 15:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If memory serves freshman Ed Cota stepping up his game was one of the key factors to the Heels playing better after starting 0-3.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If memory serves freshman Ed Cota stepping up his game was one of the key factors to the Heels playing better after starting 0-3.</p>
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		<title>By: Thank the Passer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thank the Passer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After going 0-3 start the ACC in 97&#039;, UNC was down I think 8 with little over a minute to go against NCST at home staring 0-4 in the face, and somehow they pulled it out,winning the game and going on to have a great year. I expect a beatdown of UVA on thursday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After going 0-3 start the ACC in 97&#8242;, UNC was down I think 8 with little over a minute to go against NCST at home staring 0-4 in the face, and somehow they pulled it out,winning the game and going on to have a great year. I expect a beatdown of UVA on thursday.</p>
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		<title>By: william</title>
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		<dc:creator>william</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>B. Wright was even starting to make his free throws.  He made 2nd team All ACC and I am not sure that he didn&#039;t deserve to make the 1st team.  His stats were essentially even with Hansbrough, with Hansbrough a much better free throw shooter and Wright much better from the floor in percentage terms.  Wright also blocked far more shots.

He really had a beautiful form on the court.  I wish someone could have shown him how to make even more dollars by waiting one more year, because it looks like now that he might have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>B. Wright was even starting to make his free throws.  He made 2nd team All ACC and I am not sure that he didn&#8217;t deserve to make the 1st team.  His stats were essentially even with Hansbrough, with Hansbrough a much better free throw shooter and Wright much better from the floor in percentage terms.  Wright also blocked far more shots.</p>
<p>He really had a beautiful form on the court.  I wish someone could have shown him how to make even more dollars by waiting one more year, because it looks like now that he might have.</p>
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		<title>By: C. Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>C. Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 12:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>heeledsoul, 

You may be right about Love, but it may be an easier argument that keeping Brandan Wright for his sophomore year would have been an even bigger impact, and UNC already had him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>heeledsoul, </p>
<p>You may be right about Love, but it may be an easier argument that keeping Brandan Wright for his sophomore year would have been an even bigger impact, and UNC already had him.</p>
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		<title>By: heeledsoul</title>
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		<dc:creator>heeledsoul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 12:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a year of marvin williams or brandan wright vs. 4 years of marcus ginyard?

i love ginyard and i believe he adds a ton of positive intangibles to our team that just can&#039;t be measured. having said that, purely in terms of basketball, i&#039;m going to cheat and say that i&#039;d prefer a year each of marvin williams, brandan wright, one more stud, and kevin love (i believe that was the order) over 4 years of ginyard.

=)

ps. i hope i&#039;m not opening up a whole can of worms but i absolutely believe the addition of kevin love to last year&#039;s team would have given us the national championship. i&#039;m not sure how much of a negative effect the subtraction of ginyard would have been, but i believe he was substantially less than 100% by the time we played kansas, so he may not have been hugely missed for that game.

either way, THIS YEAR, everyone is dogging wayne. some are saying give will graves more PT. i&#039;m not sure graves is the answer given his reyshawn terry-esque bursts of mistakes in concert with his awesome outbursts. i&#039;d prefer to see more of the following line up:

1. lawson
2. drew (for that additional playmaker help)
3. green (for he is our savior)
4. hansbrough
5. davis (for some physical presence)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a year of marvin williams or brandan wright vs. 4 years of marcus ginyard?</p>
<p>i love ginyard and i believe he adds a ton of positive intangibles to our team that just can&#8217;t be measured. having said that, purely in terms of basketball, i&#8217;m going to cheat and say that i&#8217;d prefer a year each of marvin williams, brandan wright, one more stud, and kevin love (i believe that was the order) over 4 years of ginyard.</p>
<p>=)</p>
<p>ps. i hope i&#8217;m not opening up a whole can of worms but i absolutely believe the addition of kevin love to last year&#8217;s team would have given us the national championship. i&#8217;m not sure how much of a negative effect the subtraction of ginyard would have been, but i believe he was substantially less than 100% by the time we played kansas, so he may not have been hugely missed for that game.</p>
<p>either way, THIS YEAR, everyone is dogging wayne. some are saying give will graves more PT. i&#8217;m not sure graves is the answer given his reyshawn terry-esque bursts of mistakes in concert with his awesome outbursts. i&#8217;d prefer to see more of the following line up:</p>
<p>1. lawson<br />
2. drew (for that additional playmaker help)<br />
3. green (for he is our savior)<br />
4. hansbrough<br />
5. davis (for some physical presence)</p>
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		<title>By: william</title>
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		<dc:creator>william</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 04:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is right, JBowling because that is how hard it is to win a national title.  So hard that Wilt Chamberlain and Ralph Sampson never won one.  So hard that Dean only won two in 36 years and nocoaches alive except for Wooden, have won more than 3.  When you have a chance to grab one you do.

That being said, though, you still can&#039;t compare Florida&#039;s program to Kansas&#039;s even though they have the same number of championships(well not anymore, but up to last year).  There is still probably just as much to be said for getting to the Final Four twice as for winning the title once, in terms of showing what the really elite programs are, as opposed to your occasional flukes like UMass or decent programs like Michigan and Stanford, but not quite elite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is right, JBowling because that is how hard it is to win a national title.  So hard that Wilt Chamberlain and Ralph Sampson never won one.  So hard that Dean only won two in 36 years and nocoaches alive except for Wooden, have won more than 3.  When you have a chance to grab one you do.</p>
<p>That being said, though, you still can&#8217;t compare Florida&#8217;s program to Kansas&#8217;s even though they have the same number of championships(well not anymore, but up to last year).  There is still probably just as much to be said for getting to the Final Four twice as for winning the title once, in terms of showing what the really elite programs are, as opposed to your occasional flukes like UMass or decent programs like Michigan and Stanford, but not quite elite.</p>
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