Comments on: A Word About Fan Behavior http://www.tarheelblog.com/2009/02/a-word-about-fan-behavior/ Sat, 11 Feb 2012 07:05:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: william http://www.tarheelblog.com/2009/02/a-word-about-fan-behavior/comment-page-1/#comment-15946 william Thu, 05 Feb 2009 16:15:54 +0000 http://www.tarheelfanblog.com/?p=3112#comment-15946 Well, UNC has already basically stopped playing in other venues around the state, which I think is a mistake. They used to play several games a year in Charlotte and several games a year in Greensboro. This is the basketball team from the main campus of the UNC system and I hope that people all over the state will continue to feel that it belongs to them. Hopefully, it is not too much for the head coach from the hills of Asheville to answer a few phone calls from people around the state who may now have little opportunity to see the Tar Heels in person. I think those shows are actually pretty lucrative for coaches. Also, how is answering questions about strategy leaving the decisions up to others? If done right, answering these questions provides education about the Roy Williams system and why he believes it is the best way to play basketball. I know there are many people on this site who feel that Roy is an excellent coach but who believe that he is actually less adaptive than Dean Smith. Well, UNC has already basically stopped playing in other venues around the state, which I think is a mistake. They used to play several games a year in Charlotte and several games a year in Greensboro. This is the basketball team from the main campus of the UNC system and I hope that people all over the state will continue to feel that it belongs to them.

Hopefully, it is not too much for the head coach from the hills of Asheville to answer a few phone calls from people around the state who may now have little opportunity to see the Tar Heels in person. I think those shows are actually pretty lucrative for coaches.

Also, how is answering questions about strategy leaving the decisions up to others? If done right, answering these questions provides education about the Roy Williams system and why he believes it is the best way to play basketball. I know there are many people on this site who feel that Roy is an excellent coach but who believe that he is actually less adaptive than Dean Smith.

]]> By: HeelYeah http://www.tarheelblog.com/2009/02/a-word-about-fan-behavior/comment-page-1/#comment-15942 HeelYeah Thu, 05 Feb 2009 15:54:25 +0000 http://www.tarheelfanblog.com/?p=3112#comment-15942 I am definitely a "fanatic" when it comes to the Heels. I expect that I've shaved 10 years off of my life due to watching them play (or at least when they play poorly). But, who needs 10 more years if you can't be a true Tar Heel, right? I am definitely a “fanatic” when it comes to the Heels. I expect that I’ve shaved 10 years off of my life due to watching them play (or at least when they play poorly). But, who needs 10 more years if you can’t be a true Tar Heel, right?

]]> By: PRGuy http://www.tarheelblog.com/2009/02/a-word-about-fan-behavior/comment-page-1/#comment-15941 PRGuy Thu, 05 Feb 2009 15:32:44 +0000 http://www.tarheelfanblog.com/?p=3112#comment-15941 There have been articles written about how Roy doesn't like the call-in shows because it takes valuable time away from other prep work and you're open to criticism/comments from people who have never coached a college game. The mighty K does a satellite radio show where he interviews others, but he doesn't do a call-in show himself. I say leave the coaching decisions to the professionals, and remember that "fan" is short for "fanatic." There have been articles written about how Roy doesn’t like the call-in shows because it takes valuable time away from other prep work and you’re open to criticism/comments from people who have never coached a college game. The mighty K does a satellite radio show where he interviews others, but he doesn’t do a call-in show himself. I say leave the coaching decisions to the professionals, and remember that “fan” is short for “fanatic.”

]]> By: william http://www.tarheelblog.com/2009/02/a-word-about-fan-behavior/comment-page-1/#comment-15940 william Thu, 05 Feb 2009 15:28:19 +0000 http://www.tarheelfanblog.com/?p=3112#comment-15940 The state of North Carolina and its love for basketball is something very special and probably only exceeded in a few states like Indiana, Kentucky and Kansas. But in my opinion the state of North Carolina has its love for basketball calibrated almost perfectly. Fans love the sport, but not quite to the excesses that you see in Kentucky and Kansas, with the mistreatment of the coaches and vitriol that you saw when Tubby and Roy (or Self a couple of times) had unexpected NCAA losses. Honestly, here in Maryland, for all the talk of the the Turtle, I thought that the celebrations for the Terps' national title in 2002 were far too low key. I will never forget UNC winning in 1982 and what a big deal it was, probably still, the sports highlight of my lifetime. The state of North Carolina and its love for basketball is something very special and probably only exceeded in a few states like Indiana, Kentucky and Kansas.

But in my opinion the state of North Carolina has its love for basketball calibrated almost perfectly. Fans love the sport, but not quite to the excesses that you see in Kentucky and Kansas, with the mistreatment of the coaches and vitriol that you saw when Tubby and Roy (or Self a couple of times) had unexpected NCAA losses.

Honestly, here in Maryland, for all the talk of the the Turtle, I thought that the celebrations for the Terps’ national title in 2002 were far too low key. I will never forget UNC winning in 1982 and what a big deal it was, probably still, the sports highlight of my lifetime.

]]> By: ed geth lives http://www.tarheelblog.com/2009/02/a-word-about-fan-behavior/comment-page-1/#comment-15928 ed geth lives Thu, 05 Feb 2009 13:00:21 +0000 http://www.tarheelfanblog.com/?p=3112#comment-15928 Thanks very much for this post. It reminds me back in 2000 when my sweet father almost got in a fist fight at the Dean Dome when some jerks yelled at the team "You have no heart." My dad responded, correctly IMO, "They're just kids, leave them alone," which the other dudes did not take kindly too. I think that is also an important thing to remember--these are just very talented young people who are prone to do mercurial things on the court--not from lack of desire but sometimes from lack of focus or just a bad case of being 20 years old. My feeling of being a Carolina fan is that when they win or lose I am happy or sad for myself but I also try to think of how the actual players and coaching staff must feel. Watching the team pile on Ty after his running 3 pointer gave me such a great feeling and seeing the dissapointment in everyone's eyes after Kansas broke my heart. I think empathy is such a key component of being a Carolina fan. Thanks very much for this post. It reminds me back in 2000 when my sweet father almost got in a fist fight at the Dean Dome when some jerks yelled at the team “You have no heart.” My dad responded, correctly IMO, “They’re just kids, leave them alone,” which the other dudes did not take kindly too. I think that is also an important thing to remember–these are just very talented young people who are prone to do mercurial things on the court–not from lack of desire but sometimes from lack of focus or just a bad case of being 20 years old.

My feeling of being a Carolina fan is that when they win or lose I am happy or sad for myself but I also try to think of how the actual players and coaching staff must feel. Watching the team pile on Ty after his running 3 pointer gave me such a great feeling and seeing the dissapointment in everyone’s eyes after Kansas broke my heart. I think empathy is such a key component of being a Carolina fan.

]]> By: Andy In Omaha http://www.tarheelblog.com/2009/02/a-word-about-fan-behavior/comment-page-1/#comment-15926 Andy In Omaha Thu, 05 Feb 2009 09:35:51 +0000 http://www.tarheelfanblog.com/?p=3112#comment-15926 I'm a North Carolina fan through and through, and I have a tendency to be a little too critical when I watch UNC. I realize that I have to sit back and enjoy the games as a fan, and try not to be so analytical about what's happening. This reminds me of a saying that I once heard a very succesful girls' basketball coach told me when I played in a pickup game with him. To paraphrase, he told me that basketball is a game where mistakes are GUARANTEED to happen, and the key is to minimize those mistakes. He told me he couldn't think of a team at any level that has played an absolute perfect game. If that were the case, then your opponent would shoot 0% and you would shoot 100%. I guess what I'm saying is that I'll focus more on trying to be more of a fan rather than breaking down the game so much. I'll admit I'm guilty of criticizing what I may think is bad play, but I need to get over it because I don't think Dick Baddour will be calling me with any job offers soon. I’m a North Carolina fan through and through, and I have a tendency to be a little too critical when I watch UNC. I realize that I have to sit back and enjoy the games as a fan, and try not to be so analytical about what’s happening.
This reminds me of a saying that I once heard a very succesful girls’ basketball coach told me when I played in a pickup game with him. To paraphrase, he told me that basketball is a game where mistakes are GUARANTEED to happen, and the key is to minimize those mistakes. He told me he couldn’t think of a team at any level that has played an absolute perfect game. If that were the case, then your opponent would shoot 0% and you would shoot 100%.
I guess what I’m saying is that I’ll focus more on trying to be more of a fan rather than breaking down the game so much. I’ll admit I’m guilty of criticizing what I may think is bad play, but I need to get over it because I don’t think Dick Baddour will be calling me with any job offers soon.

]]> By: william http://www.tarheelblog.com/2009/02/a-word-about-fan-behavior/comment-page-1/#comment-15923 william Thu, 05 Feb 2009 05:11:40 +0000 http://www.tarheelfanblog.com/?p=3112#comment-15923 I know. I just hope he doesn't turn into the grumpy old man from Saturday night live back in the late 80's. The time to get concerned is when apathy is so great that no one bothers to even call your show at UVa, a program that had two Final Fours and several number one rankings under Terry Holland. I know. I just hope he doesn’t turn into the grumpy old man from Saturday night live back in the late 80′s. The time to get concerned is when apathy is so great that no one bothers to even call your show at UVa, a program that had two Final Fours and several number one rankings under Terry Holland.

]]> By: Tar Heel Fan http://www.tarheelblog.com/2009/02/a-word-about-fan-behavior/comment-page-1/#comment-15919 Tar Heel Fan Thu, 05 Feb 2009 05:01:28 +0000 http://www.tarheelfanblog.com/?p=3112#comment-15919 william, Part of the problem is Roy hates doing the show so I think his mood is lacking a certain patience. On Monday in particular the team had a bad practice and he appeared to not be in a good mood. william,

Part of the problem is Roy hates doing the show so I think his mood is lacking a certain patience. On Monday in particular the team had a bad practice and he appeared to not be in a good mood.

]]> By: Tar Heel Fan http://www.tarheelblog.com/2009/02/a-word-about-fan-behavior/comment-page-1/#comment-15918 Tar Heel Fan Thu, 05 Feb 2009 04:57:05 +0000 http://www.tarheelfanblog.com/?p=3112#comment-15918 Of course I did not mention the most asinine criticism on the message boards. People actually start threads questioning and criticizing UNC sports medicine and the surgeons who worked on Ginyard's foot. Un-freaking-believable. Like these bozos know anything about Ginyard's condition, his foot or what the doctors did to treat it. Of course I did not mention the most asinine criticism on the message boards. People actually start threads questioning and criticizing UNC sports medicine and the surgeons who worked on Ginyard’s foot. Un-freaking-believable. Like these bozos know anything about Ginyard’s condition, his foot or what the doctors did to treat it.

]]> By: william http://www.tarheelblog.com/2009/02/a-word-about-fan-behavior/comment-page-1/#comment-15916 william Thu, 05 Feb 2009 04:54:56 +0000 http://www.tarheelfanblog.com/?p=3112#comment-15916 Good point, Minny. The Washington Post noted that last week no one phoned in to the Dave Leitao show. Ultimately, it still is about the fans(students) as well as the players and coaches and Roy should remember that, even though it may be frustrating when people ask him why he won't play zone. If zone was good enough for Frank McGuire and Dean Smith, why isn't it good enough for you, Roy? I think he can answer that question without getting quite so huffy all the time. I know they practice a lot, but it is kind of funny, though if you read Wes Miller's book, to see what he considered a challenging course load. I knew a lot of people who used to take 18 and 21 hours per semester. Good point, Minny. The Washington Post noted that last week no one phoned in to the Dave Leitao show. Ultimately, it still is about the fans(students) as well as the players and coaches and Roy should remember that, even though it may be frustrating when people ask him why he won’t play zone.

If zone was good enough for Frank McGuire and Dean Smith, why isn’t it good enough for you, Roy? I think he can answer that question without getting quite so huffy all the time.

I know they practice a lot, but it is kind of funny, though if you read Wes Miller’s book, to see what he considered a challenging course load. I knew a lot of people who used to take 18 and 21 hours per semester.

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