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		<title>By: VegasHeelFan07</title>
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		<dc:creator>VegasHeelFan07</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 23:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man...we need to really get to work.
(That&#039;s basically all I can say being that
I don&#039;t know when I last saw this team play 
since they&#039;ve not been on TV here in Vegas
much this season!)

Thank goodness I have THF to keep me in the 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man&#8230;we need to really get to work.<br />
(That&#8217;s basically all I can say being that<br />
I don&#8217;t know when I last saw this team play<br />
since they&#8217;ve not been on TV here in Vegas<br />
much this season!)</p>
<p>Thank goodness I have THF to keep me in the<br />
know!</p>
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		<title>By: william</title>
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		<dc:creator>william</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 15:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that most of the regulars here at THF are pretty sophisticated.  Obviously no one is saying defense doesn&#039;t matter or that Carolina does not need to improve on defense.  A lot of the platitudes are due to the old time announcers who never change their schtich.

Basketball (and maybe soccer) are much less clearly defined into offensive and defensive aspects than football or baseball.  There is an organic integrity between the two in basketball.  Two famous NBA teams from the 60&#039;s and the 70&#039;s, Russell&#039;s Celtics and Frazier&#039;s Knicks were known for their great defense, but they were also known for their fastbreaking style and great shooters and scorers like Bill Sharman, Sam Jones, Jerry Lucas, Earl Monroe and Bill Bradley.

Defense and the break started the offense for these great NBA teams, which is how it often works best for Carolina, going all the way back to Dean Smith&#039;s first great teams from the 60&#039;s and 70&#039;s who were usually among the highest scoring teams in the country.

One thing that Pomeroy has suggested, but not implemented, perhaps because it is not predictive, is whether stats should be counted differently during blow-outs, or at least some break-out should be made.  

Except for the Notre Dame game, Carolina has now had its best two offensive games of the year by far.  Is it reasonable that the defensive numbers would lag, or should they have remained the same as well?  I do think that at times, paradoxically, by giving up easy baskets, UNC takes the other team out of their game, turns the game into a running game and may actually benefit from giving up some lay-ups.  This is in opposition to the BC game, where we didn&#039;t give up many lay-ups or easy baskets in transition and accordingly, could never get the game to the pace we needed.

The other thing that seems to be a constant is that UNC has problems when its opponents hit over 1/3 of their three pointers.  In most of the games that Carolina has lost the last two years, they have gotten torched at the three point line, if not the entire game, at least in the first half.  

BC was 7-16 from the three point line in our loss to them.  Duke was 13-29 from the three point line when they beat us last year.  Kansas made 4-6 three-pointers in the first half against Carolina and hit three of them in one three minute span.  Wake Forest was 6-14 against us, for an outstanding 43%.  

Obviously, no team does particularly well when they give up a lot of three&#039;s, but it seems as though UNC might do better in games like the ones this week, where over all we are not great on defense, but where we do defend the three well.  UNC was excellent defending the three in both games against State and Maryland, particularly in the first half, when the games were still at risk, so maybe we should take some of the poor points per possession stats with a grain of salt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that most of the regulars here at THF are pretty sophisticated.  Obviously no one is saying defense doesn&#8217;t matter or that Carolina does not need to improve on defense.  A lot of the platitudes are due to the old time announcers who never change their schtich.</p>
<p>Basketball (and maybe soccer) are much less clearly defined into offensive and defensive aspects than football or baseball.  There is an organic integrity between the two in basketball.  Two famous NBA teams from the 60&#8242;s and the 70&#8242;s, Russell&#8217;s Celtics and Frazier&#8217;s Knicks were known for their great defense, but they were also known for their fastbreaking style and great shooters and scorers like Bill Sharman, Sam Jones, Jerry Lucas, Earl Monroe and Bill Bradley.</p>
<p>Defense and the break started the offense for these great NBA teams, which is how it often works best for Carolina, going all the way back to Dean Smith&#8217;s first great teams from the 60&#8242;s and 70&#8242;s who were usually among the highest scoring teams in the country.</p>
<p>One thing that Pomeroy has suggested, but not implemented, perhaps because it is not predictive, is whether stats should be counted differently during blow-outs, or at least some break-out should be made.  </p>
<p>Except for the Notre Dame game, Carolina has now had its best two offensive games of the year by far.  Is it reasonable that the defensive numbers would lag, or should they have remained the same as well?  I do think that at times, paradoxically, by giving up easy baskets, UNC takes the other team out of their game, turns the game into a running game and may actually benefit from giving up some lay-ups.  This is in opposition to the BC game, where we didn&#8217;t give up many lay-ups or easy baskets in transition and accordingly, could never get the game to the pace we needed.</p>
<p>The other thing that seems to be a constant is that UNC has problems when its opponents hit over 1/3 of their three pointers.  In most of the games that Carolina has lost the last two years, they have gotten torched at the three point line, if not the entire game, at least in the first half.  </p>
<p>BC was 7-16 from the three point line in our loss to them.  Duke was 13-29 from the three point line when they beat us last year.  Kansas made 4-6 three-pointers in the first half against Carolina and hit three of them in one three minute span.  Wake Forest was 6-14 against us, for an outstanding 43%.  </p>
<p>Obviously, no team does particularly well when they give up a lot of three&#8217;s, but it seems as though UNC might do better in games like the ones this week, where over all we are not great on defense, but where we do defend the three well.  UNC was excellent defending the three in both games against State and Maryland, particularly in the first half, when the games were still at risk, so maybe we should take some of the poor points per possession stats with a grain of salt.</p>
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		<title>By: TarHeelInMinny</title>
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		<dc:creator>TarHeelInMinny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 15:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One other thought on the defense and the NCAA Tourney. The NCAA has its officials call tournament games much tighter, and you don&#039;t have the same group of officials working all your games like you do during conference play. I think this leads to a couple of things for Carolina: 1)More FTA for Tyler, and 2)Less physical play on defense. I think both of those points will be on our favor. Our defense is predicated on speed and anticipation, not brute force/lock down type of mentality. 

In short, our style works in the NCAAs, which the Pomeroy ratings bear out, especially for 2005. With that said, we only go as far as our starting 5+Davis takes us. Right now, I could beat Bobby in a game of HORSE, no problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One other thought on the defense and the NCAA Tourney. The NCAA has its officials call tournament games much tighter, and you don&#8217;t have the same group of officials working all your games like you do during conference play. I think this leads to a couple of things for Carolina: 1)More FTA for Tyler, and 2)Less physical play on defense. I think both of those points will be on our favor. Our defense is predicated on speed and anticipation, not brute force/lock down type of mentality. </p>
<p>In short, our style works in the NCAAs, which the Pomeroy ratings bear out, especially for 2005. With that said, we only go as far as our starting 5+Davis takes us. Right now, I could beat Bobby in a game of HORSE, no problem.</p>
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		<title>By: C. Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>C. Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 15:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JB,  I&#039;m not saying there haven&#039;t been a lot of calls go against UNC, but I just don&#039;t think it is disproportionate.  For the history of sports, fans have always felt that their team gets the short end of the officiating stick.  Go to any opposing team&#039;s site after a UNC game and you will see just as many, if not more threads about their team not getting any calls.  For the season, UNC has had 3 players foul out while their opponents have had 13.  That is stark, regardless of style of play.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JB,  I&#8217;m not saying there haven&#8217;t been a lot of calls go against UNC, but I just don&#8217;t think it is disproportionate.  For the history of sports, fans have always felt that their team gets the short end of the officiating stick.  Go to any opposing team&#8217;s site after a UNC game and you will see just as many, if not more threads about their team not getting any calls.  For the season, UNC has had 3 players foul out while their opponents have had 13.  That is stark, regardless of style of play.</p>
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		<title>By: JBowling</title>
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		<dc:creator>JBowling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 14:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HeelYeah, that is pretty much how I feel about it. There should always be a certain level of intensity on both sides, but as the game rolls on, you just need to get a feel for what you need to do to get the W.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HeelYeah, that is pretty much how I feel about it. There should always be a certain level of intensity on both sides, but as the game rolls on, you just need to get a feel for what you need to do to get the W.</p>
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		<title>By: 52bgJ</title>
		<link>http://www.tarheelblog.com/2009/02/unc-108-maryland-91/comment-page-1/#comment-15785</link>
		<dc:creator>52bgJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 14:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I promise I&#039;ll give it a rest after this, but the reason I&#039;ve been pimping the 3/2 zone is specifically because of Deon (well that and the 2nd half of the KU game last season). I truly hope I&#039;m wrong, but I haven&#039;t seen anything that makes me feel he&#039;s not the breaking link in the man to man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I promise I&#8217;ll give it a rest after this, but the reason I&#8217;ve been pimping the 3/2 zone is specifically because of Deon (well that and the 2nd half of the KU game last season). I truly hope I&#8217;m wrong, but I haven&#8217;t seen anything that makes me feel he&#8217;s not the breaking link in the man to man.</p>
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		<title>By: JBowling</title>
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		<dc:creator>JBowling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 14:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C. Michael. When you say UNC gets most of the &quot;calls&quot;, you have to be looking at a stat sheet. Yes, we make our share of trips to the line, but we are also one of the more aggressive teams out there getting into the lane and inside. We also have a player who cannot be stopped unless he is banged, and even at that, he doesn&#039;t get &quot;stopped.&quot; Watching last night&#039;s game makes my point, and that game was pretty consistent with all of the others. Look at those garbage fouls that Davis &amp; Frasor racked up. Really, when have we gotten those this year. When is the last time you saw Hansbrough/Davis/Thompson go to the line because a defender touched him? Now, how often do you see us get called for fouls on clean steals and blocks? There have been multiple times in just about every game. How often have you seen clean blocks on our bigs where they go to the line? Not often, I can promise you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C. Michael. When you say UNC gets most of the &#8220;calls&#8221;, you have to be looking at a stat sheet. Yes, we make our share of trips to the line, but we are also one of the more aggressive teams out there getting into the lane and inside. We also have a player who cannot be stopped unless he is banged, and even at that, he doesn&#8217;t get &#8220;stopped.&#8221; Watching last night&#8217;s game makes my point, and that game was pretty consistent with all of the others. Look at those garbage fouls that Davis &amp; Frasor racked up. Really, when have we gotten those this year. When is the last time you saw Hansbrough/Davis/Thompson go to the line because a defender touched him? Now, how often do you see us get called for fouls on clean steals and blocks? There have been multiple times in just about every game. How often have you seen clean blocks on our bigs where they go to the line? Not often, I can promise you.</p>
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		<title>By: tarheel4lifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>tarheel4lifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 14:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the Heels played on heckuva ball game on offense last night.  They&#039;re defense still needs a lot of work, expecially defending the fast breaks.  That&#039;s what killed them last night(4 times in a row) if I&#039;m not mistaken.  

It wasn&#039;t really a suprise to me that Ginyard will not be back this year. What really suprised me was Graves.  What happened?  Anyway, with that said, our depth is one man short.  We&#039;ve been without Ginyard for the whole year. When he did play this year, he didn&#039;t do anything.  

What we need to do now is Focus!!! Focus!!! Focus!!!! on DEFENSE!!!!!!  If we get better on DEFENSE, we will be unstoppable!!!!!  No one will beat us!!!!  

An another thing,  I&#039;m not worried about the NCAA Tournament right now let alone next year in 2010, Like I&#039;ve said before, we need to take one game at a night and improve from our mistakes and learn from them.  When we get to the tournament, we&#039;ll worry about that then but until then, Let&#039;s play Carolina basketball like it should be played!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the Heels played on heckuva ball game on offense last night.  They&#8217;re defense still needs a lot of work, expecially defending the fast breaks.  That&#8217;s what killed them last night(4 times in a row) if I&#8217;m not mistaken.  </p>
<p>It wasn&#8217;t really a suprise to me that Ginyard will not be back this year. What really suprised me was Graves.  What happened?  Anyway, with that said, our depth is one man short.  We&#8217;ve been without Ginyard for the whole year. When he did play this year, he didn&#8217;t do anything.  </p>
<p>What we need to do now is Focus!!! Focus!!! Focus!!!! on DEFENSE!!!!!!  If we get better on DEFENSE, we will be unstoppable!!!!!  No one will beat us!!!!  </p>
<p>An another thing,  I&#8217;m not worried about the NCAA Tournament right now let alone next year in 2010, Like I&#8217;ve said before, we need to take one game at a night and improve from our mistakes and learn from them.  When we get to the tournament, we&#8217;ll worry about that then but until then, Let&#8217;s play Carolina basketball like it should be played!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: HeelYeah</title>
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		<dc:creator>HeelYeah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 14:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think that defense necessarily wins or doesn&#039;t win games. We played some of the worst defense last night that we&#039;ve played all year, and yet won handily.  Why?  Offense.  However, if your offense is lacking on a particular night, you need to step up the defense.  If a team has awesome defense, but no offense, they aren&#039;t going to get far, just like a team with awesome offense but no defense.

The key is bringing to the table what you need to win each night. The Heels are more than capable (both mentally &amp; physically) of playing good defense.  They are also even more capable of playing good offense. As long as they can add enough of one to compliment the other, I&#039;m not too worried. I guess I&#039;d rather have the tools and figure out which ones I need each night to win than to not have the tools at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think that defense necessarily wins or doesn&#8217;t win games. We played some of the worst defense last night that we&#8217;ve played all year, and yet won handily.  Why?  Offense.  However, if your offense is lacking on a particular night, you need to step up the defense.  If a team has awesome defense, but no offense, they aren&#8217;t going to get far, just like a team with awesome offense but no defense.</p>
<p>The key is bringing to the table what you need to win each night. The Heels are more than capable (both mentally &amp; physically) of playing good defense.  They are also even more capable of playing good offense. As long as they can add enough of one to compliment the other, I&#8217;m not too worried. I guess I&#8217;d rather have the tools and figure out which ones I need each night to win than to not have the tools at all.</p>
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		<title>By: uncgirl50</title>
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		<dc:creator>uncgirl50</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 14:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh dear, I hate being so behind on things but I see the main topic is defense which I have alot to say about.

Defense this season: Moderatley ok
Defense last night: Crappy

Our main problem was transition defense. I mean Wayne would go down and make a three, the MD would get the ball and score a quick layup with nobody gaurding him. Problem? Yes. With teams like Maryland. Team that take their time shooting, wont be as big of a problem, unless they shoot threes, which we can&#039;t defend at all. 

For those of you that say defense doesn&#039;t win games, I have to disagree. For teams like MD who really are not that good offense can win games but when we play better teams we can&#039;t win by pure offensive production. We need defense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh dear, I hate being so behind on things but I see the main topic is defense which I have alot to say about.</p>
<p>Defense this season: Moderatley ok<br />
Defense last night: Crappy</p>
<p>Our main problem was transition defense. I mean Wayne would go down and make a three, the MD would get the ball and score a quick layup with nobody gaurding him. Problem? Yes. With teams like Maryland. Team that take their time shooting, wont be as big of a problem, unless they shoot threes, which we can&#8217;t defend at all. </p>
<p>For those of you that say defense doesn&#8217;t win games, I have to disagree. For teams like MD who really are not that good offense can win games but when we play better teams we can&#8217;t win by pure offensive production. We need defense.</p>
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