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	<title>Comments on: Tudor On Roy And Krzyzewski&#8217;s Win Totals</title>
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		<title>By: TxTarheel</title>
		<link>http://www.tarheelblog.com/2009/07/tudor-on-roy-and-krzyzewski-win-totals/comment-page-1/#comment-28239</link>
		<dc:creator>TxTarheel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 03:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having consulted the ultimate of sooth-saying or fortune telling machinations available, I think the future is bright.

According to the magic-8 ball, all signs point to yes when asked &quot;will Roy continue to own coach K&quot;.

I recall Duke&#039;s class of 2005 (for the 05-06 season), featured prominently on the SI cover issue that season.  Highly touted coming in, upon leaving...not as much.  All i have to say about that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having consulted the ultimate of sooth-saying or fortune telling machinations available, I think the future is bright.</p>
<p>According to the magic-8 ball, all signs point to yes when asked &#8220;will Roy continue to own coach K&#8221;.</p>
<p>I recall Duke&#8217;s class of 2005 (for the 05-06 season), featured prominently on the SI cover issue that season.  Highly touted coming in, upon leaving&#8230;not as much.  All i have to say about that.</p>
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		<title>By: JBowling</title>
		<link>http://www.tarheelblog.com/2009/07/tudor-on-roy-and-krzyzewski-win-totals/comment-page-1/#comment-28236</link>
		<dc:creator>JBowling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 20:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The next several years I will be watching the pendelum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The next several years I will be watching the pendelum.</p>
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		<title>By: JBowling</title>
		<link>http://www.tarheelblog.com/2009/07/tudor-on-roy-and-krzyzewski-win-totals/comment-page-1/#comment-28235</link>
		<dc:creator>JBowling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 20:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What if we looked at the Duke/UNC situation from more of an acute angle? What about the next five years? Duke&#039;s fanbase are already starting to wag their finger our way with their upcoming class. Will this class fall under like some of their high-recruited ones of late, or could this be a rebirth of the 96-98 teams where there was no shortfall of great talent from top to bottom? Only time will tell, and they may not land all of the players they are convinced they will. But on paper, if they sign, Duke will be considered superior to us in terms of recruitment. If not, then we stand a good chance to really distance ourselves from them, even in historical figures. But we have to continue to land top talent. As of right now, I think we have lost the class of 2011&#039;s interest. The 2012 class isn&#039;t even considering Duke or UNC at this moment. How does that happen? Maybe they are thinking that our teams will be too loaded to consider them anyway. At least that is what I am hoping. And as a few of our players leave, they get on board with us. Could it be a different approach. Are they shunning at the fact that UNC/Duke is the place to be?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What if we looked at the Duke/UNC situation from more of an acute angle? What about the next five years? Duke&#8217;s fanbase are already starting to wag their finger our way with their upcoming class. Will this class fall under like some of their high-recruited ones of late, or could this be a rebirth of the 96-98 teams where there was no shortfall of great talent from top to bottom? Only time will tell, and they may not land all of the players they are convinced they will. But on paper, if they sign, Duke will be considered superior to us in terms of recruitment. If not, then we stand a good chance to really distance ourselves from them, even in historical figures. But we have to continue to land top talent. As of right now, I think we have lost the class of 2011&#8242;s interest. The 2012 class isn&#8217;t even considering Duke or UNC at this moment. How does that happen? Maybe they are thinking that our teams will be too loaded to consider them anyway. At least that is what I am hoping. And as a few of our players leave, they get on board with us. Could it be a different approach. Are they shunning at the fact that UNC/Duke is the place to be?</p>
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		<title>By: 52bgJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>52bgJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 12:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Capel was pretty highly rated coming out of HS too. Speaking of hype, get ready for some non-stop focus on this kid for the next 4 years. Based on the article however, I would welcome his interest in the Heels...

http://www.newsobserver.com/sports/story/1595540.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Capel was pretty highly rated coming out of HS too. Speaking of hype, get ready for some non-stop focus on this kid for the next 4 years. Based on the article however, I would welcome his interest in the Heels&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.newsobserver.com/sports/story/1595540.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.newsobserver.com/sports/story/1595540.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: HeelYeah</title>
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		<dc:creator>HeelYeah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 03:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Curry was a stud when he came to UNC.  I remember reading article after article about how good he was going to be.  I&#039;ve often wondered how much being a two sport athlete hurt him, both literally and figuratively.  It is clear he was a pretty good athlete, considering his move to wide receiver in the NFL (and having several good seasons).  I hate that he never got things going, because I think he could have been pretty good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Curry was a stud when he came to UNC.  I remember reading article after article about how good he was going to be.  I&#8217;ve often wondered how much being a two sport athlete hurt him, both literally and figuratively.  It is clear he was a pretty good athlete, considering his move to wide receiver in the NFL (and having several good seasons).  I hate that he never got things going, because I think he could have been pretty good.</p>
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		<title>By: JBowling</title>
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		<dc:creator>JBowling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 14:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very good posts William. I agree with your positions as well, as thats the way I see it too. We could be a part of another string of years where we are no worse than 3rd io the ACC. Give us a down time for Duke this upcoming season, like finishing 4th (I know thats a big stretch), we could have ownership of that stat for a long time to come.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good posts William. I agree with your positions as well, as thats the way I see it too. We could be a part of another string of years where we are no worse than 3rd io the ACC. Give us a down time for Duke this upcoming season, like finishing 4th (I know thats a big stretch), we could have ownership of that stat for a long time to come.</p>
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		<title>By: william</title>
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		<dc:creator>william</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 18:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t defend Mahktar.  To this day, does anyone understand why Wake, Michigan and UNC were fighting over the guy?  There is very little doubt that Mahktar would win the poll as least popular Tar Heel ever.  He would probably take second and third, too, based on misspellings, given that few can spell his name.

Guthridge was more permissive than Smith was, both with players and the press.  I am not sure, however, that the result in 1998 was much different from that in 1997, with the exception being that Dean&#039;s team started well and sputtered to the finish against Arizona, while Gut&#039;s team started abysmally and almost pulled out the game against Utah.  My recollection is that the 1998 team came closer to winning its game against Utah, than did the 1997 team against Arizona, although neither performance was good.

I honestly think the 1997 team was better than the 1998 team because it had a true center, but if you look at the trends, after recovering from an 0-3 start in the ACC, the 1997 squad was basically the same team as the 1998 team in terms of winning percentage.  Haywood didn&#039;t play that much in 1998, so once again merely looking back at the rosters can deceive.

I honestly would compare the 1998 Tar Heels to the 2008 Tar Heels, more than this year&#039;s squad because like the 2008 team, the 1998 team had to be functioning on all cylinders to win.  They couldn&#039;t withstand a bad performance by Shammond, who, as good as he could be, was never really a star in the manner of a Felton or Lawson, or even a Donald Williams.  Essentially, the 1996-98 Tar Heels lacked a third true star.  When only Vince Carter showed up for the Utah game, it was just too much to overcome.  

Last year&#039;s team couldn&#039;t withstand a mediocre performance by Hansbrough against Kansas, due to similar outside shooting issues, Ellington being erratic and Lawson needing screens to set up his shot, left only Danny Green hitting from outside against the Jayhawk onslaught. Hansbrough&#039;s lack of inside help left him frustrated and put all the pressure on the outside game. 

This year&#039;s team was basically complete, inside and outside, with the addition of Ed Davis and the improvement in outside shooting by Green, Lawson and Ellington.  Teams couldn&#039;t key on Hansbrough the same way; Lawson got much better at finding his shot and Ellington finally reached the .400 range on three&#039;s.  There simply was no way to deal with those kinds of weapons.  

The number of lucky wins by the 2008 squad, and the hard-luck losses by the 2009 squad obscures the fact that this year&#039;s team was decidely better than last year&#039;s team.  In 2008, the Heels won three overtime games, and three other games by two points or less, dropping only a close one to Maryland by two points.  They also eeked out a close win over Davidson.  They lost two games by double digits.

In 2009, the Tar Heels lost four out of six of their close games, losing their only overtime game, as well as three others that they had a chance to tie or go ahead in during the last minute, losing by three to Wake, Maryland and FSU and by seven to BC.

Although traditionally, one would have deemed the 2008 Heels as &quot;clutch&quot; compared to the 2009 Heels, I think it is now fairly clear why the debacle against Kansas should not have been such a surprise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t defend Mahktar.  To this day, does anyone understand why Wake, Michigan and UNC were fighting over the guy?  There is very little doubt that Mahktar would win the poll as least popular Tar Heel ever.  He would probably take second and third, too, based on misspellings, given that few can spell his name.</p>
<p>Guthridge was more permissive than Smith was, both with players and the press.  I am not sure, however, that the result in 1998 was much different from that in 1997, with the exception being that Dean&#8217;s team started well and sputtered to the finish against Arizona, while Gut&#8217;s team started abysmally and almost pulled out the game against Utah.  My recollection is that the 1998 team came closer to winning its game against Utah, than did the 1997 team against Arizona, although neither performance was good.</p>
<p>I honestly think the 1997 team was better than the 1998 team because it had a true center, but if you look at the trends, after recovering from an 0-3 start in the ACC, the 1997 squad was basically the same team as the 1998 team in terms of winning percentage.  Haywood didn&#8217;t play that much in 1998, so once again merely looking back at the rosters can deceive.</p>
<p>I honestly would compare the 1998 Tar Heels to the 2008 Tar Heels, more than this year&#8217;s squad because like the 2008 team, the 1998 team had to be functioning on all cylinders to win.  They couldn&#8217;t withstand a bad performance by Shammond, who, as good as he could be, was never really a star in the manner of a Felton or Lawson, or even a Donald Williams.  Essentially, the 1996-98 Tar Heels lacked a third true star.  When only Vince Carter showed up for the Utah game, it was just too much to overcome.  </p>
<p>Last year&#8217;s team couldn&#8217;t withstand a mediocre performance by Hansbrough against Kansas, due to similar outside shooting issues, Ellington being erratic and Lawson needing screens to set up his shot, left only Danny Green hitting from outside against the Jayhawk onslaught. Hansbrough&#8217;s lack of inside help left him frustrated and put all the pressure on the outside game. </p>
<p>This year&#8217;s team was basically complete, inside and outside, with the addition of Ed Davis and the improvement in outside shooting by Green, Lawson and Ellington.  Teams couldn&#8217;t key on Hansbrough the same way; Lawson got much better at finding his shot and Ellington finally reached the .400 range on three&#8217;s.  There simply was no way to deal with those kinds of weapons.  </p>
<p>The number of lucky wins by the 2008 squad, and the hard-luck losses by the 2009 squad obscures the fact that this year&#8217;s team was decidely better than last year&#8217;s team.  In 2008, the Heels won three overtime games, and three other games by two points or less, dropping only a close one to Maryland by two points.  They also eeked out a close win over Davidson.  They lost two games by double digits.</p>
<p>In 2009, the Tar Heels lost four out of six of their close games, losing their only overtime game, as well as three others that they had a chance to tie or go ahead in during the last minute, losing by three to Wake, Maryland and FSU and by seven to BC.</p>
<p>Although traditionally, one would have deemed the 2008 Heels as &#8220;clutch&#8221; compared to the 2009 Heels, I think it is now fairly clear why the debacle against Kansas should not have been such a surprise.</p>
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		<title>By: Tar Heel Fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tar Heel Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 16:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hindsight is 20/20.

At the time Ronald Curry looked like he was going to be an incredible player in both sports.  There is really no way you could have known Curry was going to be at best mediocre and Jason Williams an All-American.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hindsight is 20/20.</p>
<p>At the time Ronald Curry looked like he was going to be an incredible player in both sports.  There is really no way you could have known Curry was going to be at best mediocre and Jason Williams an All-American.</p>
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		<title>By: DfromFlorida</title>
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		<dc:creator>DfromFlorida</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 15:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is off subject (I am good for that) but I thought interesting to us Old Heels. Attached is two addresses to  articles in our local paper about Vince Carter. He is an icon around Daytona. He attended Mainland High School in Daytona and gives back to his school in numerous ways. It seems there is not a week that goes by that he is not mentioned for donating his time and money to some charity. He is VERY well thought of in these parts and now will be back in Florida with the Magic this coming year. Folks around here are excited. He is a great Tar Heel representative.

http://www.news-journalonline.com/NewsJournalOnline/News/Local/newFLAG01070309.htm

http://www.news-journalonline.com/NewsJournalOnline/News/Local/newEAST01070309.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is off subject (I am good for that) but I thought interesting to us Old Heels. Attached is two addresses to  articles in our local paper about Vince Carter. He is an icon around Daytona. He attended Mainland High School in Daytona and gives back to his school in numerous ways. It seems there is not a week that goes by that he is not mentioned for donating his time and money to some charity. He is VERY well thought of in these parts and now will be back in Florida with the Magic this coming year. Folks around here are excited. He is a great Tar Heel representative.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.news-journalonline.com/NewsJournalOnline/News/Local/newFLAG01070309.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.news-journalonline.com/NewsJournalOnline/News/Local/newFLAG01070309.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: JBowling</title>
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		<dc:creator>JBowling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 14:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we lost Jason Williams because we already promised (so to speak) Ronald Curry the job as an enticement to get him on our football team. Correct?

And, if that is the case, what a lousy job in handling that situation. Hmm, let me figure this out. Jason Williams, Ronald Curry. I know who I&#039;d want. That&#039;s like debating on whether we will recruit Pete Chilcutt or Larry Bird. No offense Pete.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we lost Jason Williams because we already promised (so to speak) Ronald Curry the job as an enticement to get him on our football team. Correct?</p>
<p>And, if that is the case, what a lousy job in handling that situation. Hmm, let me figure this out. Jason Williams, Ronald Curry. I know who I&#8217;d want. That&#8217;s like debating on whether we will recruit Pete Chilcutt or Larry Bird. No offense Pete.</p>
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