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		<title>By: badbadleroybrown</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 13:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again, that bulldog with the 24 foot vertical leap, that&#039;s impressive.

Sad season, headed for a sad end after a sad, sad Duke game. I think everyone recognizes that this season has been over for some time but as a fan you have to nurture hope. That only builds expectations when you see some progress but it&#039;s just not going to happen this year for so many reasons.

I do think it&#039;s impossible or even rational to make statements about how good we will be next year or that we can&#039;t turn this ship around with just a few new players. We have a tremendous amount of data on this season and player performance and we still don&#039;t have answers, guessing, hoping or writing off next season is just silly. 

Commenting &amp; blogging can be fun and there is a tremendous amount of good information on this site and many others. Tough for those of us that don&#039;t fall into the genius camp but we try hard every day. Behavior is different online and that&#039;s okay, we aren&#039;t at a bar having this discussion or in the Sunday school annex either. You can attempt to enforce some standard of discourse but it&#039;s a slippery slope and the community has to care. The individual has to care. That said, it&#039;s like playing a game online, people taunt and act tough, childish and ridiculous because they can. So they do it, period. 

This season is almost done, we should take the NIT bid if we get, any additional practice time is good and you have to be in a position to do your best. The only people not wanting to accept an NIT bid are fans, not the staff, not the players and not the coaches.

Finally, I mentioned Football as it is a major sport, I see some images at the top of this blog concerning football. I don&#039;t blog on this site, I comment so this is my only venue to get people to think a little about football. If we had just beaten Duke and were number one in the country I would do the same. 

As to baseball, it&#039;s pure relaxation and the venue is great, the parking is pretty easy for UNC and everyone here needs some calming down time.

Get what you can out of the remainder of the season and prepare yourself for the next one. I think we have a lot to look forward to next year. See below for one game you might enjoy in a great location with a player we should see in the blue next year, keep the faith.


NCHSAA STATE BASKETBALL CHAMPIONSHIP SCHEDULE 
SATURDAY, MARCH 13, 2010 

96th ANNUAL MENâ€™S NCHSAA BASKETBALL CHAMPIONSHIPS 

Class 2-A Men -- 2:30 P.M. 
Kinston High School Vikings (27-4) 
Vs. 
West Caldwell High School Warriors (27-2) 

http://www.nchsaa.org/newsletter.php?mode=display&amp;archiveID=1166</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, that bulldog with the 24 foot vertical leap, that&#8217;s impressive.</p>
<p>Sad season, headed for a sad end after a sad, sad Duke game. I think everyone recognizes that this season has been over for some time but as a fan you have to nurture hope. That only builds expectations when you see some progress but it&#8217;s just not going to happen this year for so many reasons.</p>
<p>I do think it&#8217;s impossible or even rational to make statements about how good we will be next year or that we can&#8217;t turn this ship around with just a few new players. We have a tremendous amount of data on this season and player performance and we still don&#8217;t have answers, guessing, hoping or writing off next season is just silly. </p>
<p>Commenting &amp; blogging can be fun and there is a tremendous amount of good information on this site and many others. Tough for those of us that don&#8217;t fall into the genius camp but we try hard every day. Behavior is different online and that&#8217;s okay, we aren&#8217;t at a bar having this discussion or in the Sunday school annex either. You can attempt to enforce some standard of discourse but it&#8217;s a slippery slope and the community has to care. The individual has to care. That said, it&#8217;s like playing a game online, people taunt and act tough, childish and ridiculous because they can. So they do it, period. </p>
<p>This season is almost done, we should take the NIT bid if we get, any additional practice time is good and you have to be in a position to do your best. The only people not wanting to accept an NIT bid are fans, not the staff, not the players and not the coaches.</p>
<p>Finally, I mentioned Football as it is a major sport, I see some images at the top of this blog concerning football. I don&#8217;t blog on this site, I comment so this is my only venue to get people to think a little about football. If we had just beaten Duke and were number one in the country I would do the same. </p>
<p>As to baseball, it&#8217;s pure relaxation and the venue is great, the parking is pretty easy for UNC and everyone here needs some calming down time.</p>
<p>Get what you can out of the remainder of the season and prepare yourself for the next one. I think we have a lot to look forward to next year. See below for one game you might enjoy in a great location with a player we should see in the blue next year, keep the faith.</p>
<p>NCHSAA STATE BASKETBALL CHAMPIONSHIP SCHEDULE<br />
SATURDAY, MARCH 13, 2010 </p>
<p>96th ANNUAL MENâ€™S NCHSAA BASKETBALL CHAMPIONSHIPS </p>
<p>Class 2-A Men &#8212; 2:30 P.M.<br />
Kinston High School Vikings (27-4)<br />
Vs.<br />
West Caldwell High School Warriors (27-2) </p>
<p><a href="http://www.nchsaa.org/newsletter.php?mode=display&#038;archiveID=1166" rel="nofollow">http://www.nchsaa.org/newsletter.php?mode=display&#038;archiveID=1166</a></p>
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		<title>By: ugatarheel</title>
		<link>http://www.tarheelblog.com/2010/03/change/comment-page-2/#comment-41996</link>
		<dc:creator>ugatarheel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 22:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boy how ridiculous does that article on Deon Thompson cb74 linked to look right now?!?  Note to Adam Lucas,  don&#039;t include that fluff piece in your resume when you go to apply for a real job.  You&#039;ll get laughed out of the interview!

I can&#039;t even say I&#039;m mad at the talking heads at ESPN for laughing at UNC.  I mean look at that game.  The effort we put forth WAS laughable.  The Lady Tarheel basketball team could have played as well as that(well maybe not this year&#039;s team).  The blue team could have played and wouldn&#039;t have looked any worse then we did against Duke.  That kind of performance invites people outside of the program to turn us into a laughingstock.  

I generally don&#039;t care for negativity on these blogs, and I certainly think it&#039;s wrong to kick somebody when they are down.  But I honestly don&#039;t know what I can say that&#039;s positive at this point. HMMMMMMMM, at least we don&#039;t have a losing record yet?  Or maybe, at least we are still better then NC State?  Henson looks like he might be star (but then so did Ed Davis last year). Seriously, that&#039;s all I come up with right now.  

How did this team beat Ohio State and MSU and come within  a hair&#039;s breath of beating KY in Rupp Arena?  Where did THAT team go?  And when I can I expect them to come back?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boy how ridiculous does that article on Deon Thompson cb74 linked to look right now?!?  Note to Adam Lucas,  don&#8217;t include that fluff piece in your resume when you go to apply for a real job.  You&#8217;ll get laughed out of the interview!</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t even say I&#8217;m mad at the talking heads at ESPN for laughing at UNC.  I mean look at that game.  The effort we put forth WAS laughable.  The Lady Tarheel basketball team could have played as well as that(well maybe not this year&#8217;s team).  The blue team could have played and wouldn&#8217;t have looked any worse then we did against Duke.  That kind of performance invites people outside of the program to turn us into a laughingstock.  </p>
<p>I generally don&#8217;t care for negativity on these blogs, and I certainly think it&#8217;s wrong to kick somebody when they are down.  But I honestly don&#8217;t know what I can say that&#8217;s positive at this point. HMMMMMMMM, at least we don&#8217;t have a losing record yet?  Or maybe, at least we are still better then NC State?  Henson looks like he might be star (but then so did Ed Davis last year). Seriously, that&#8217;s all I come up with right now.  </p>
<p>How did this team beat Ohio State and MSU and come within  a hair&#8217;s breath of beating KY in Rupp Arena?  Where did THAT team go?  And when I can I expect them to come back?</p>
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		<title>By: makeitWayne22</title>
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		<dc:creator>makeitWayne22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 18:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the half time report during the ESPN broadcast the talking heads were laughing and making jokes at UNC expense, that is worse than any story any Daily Tarheel journalist could produce. UNC is now the NJ Nets of college basketball, were teams bring their A game to avoid the embarssement of losing to &quot;these&quot; heels.

They were laughing at all the players, I lost a lot of respect for ESPN and the time and effort they put forth to bury the heels, but hey we deserve it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the half time report during the ESPN broadcast the talking heads were laughing and making jokes at UNC expense, that is worse than any story any Daily Tarheel journalist could produce. UNC is now the NJ Nets of college basketball, were teams bring their A game to avoid the embarssement of losing to &#8220;these&#8221; heels.</p>
<p>They were laughing at all the players, I lost a lot of respect for ESPN and the time and effort they put forth to bury the heels, but hey we deserve it.</p>
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		<title>By: scl11</title>
		<link>http://www.tarheelblog.com/2010/03/change/comment-page-2/#comment-41959</link>
		<dc:creator>scl11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 18:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Yet not once did anyone write anything criticizing any of the players.&quot;

If the head coach can get an opposing fan kicked out of the arena, imagine what he could do to a young aspiring journalism major.......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Yet not once did anyone write anything criticizing any of the players.&#8221;</p>
<p>If the head coach can get an opposing fan kicked out of the arena, imagine what he could do to a young aspiring journalism major&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: scl11</title>
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		<dc:creator>scl11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 18:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Maybe you just came to UNC to enjoy the ride while somebody else won a National Championship for you?&quot;

Worked for Ginyard, Thompson, and Frasor, so probably looks like a good gig if you can get it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Maybe you just came to UNC to enjoy the ride while somebody else won a National Championship for you?&#8221;</p>
<p>Worked for Ginyard, Thompson, and Frasor, so probably looks like a good gig if you can get it.</p>
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		<title>By: carolinablue74</title>
		<link>http://www.tarheelblog.com/2010/03/change/comment-page-2/#comment-41957</link>
		<dc:creator>carolinablue74</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 18:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the team is also sometimes as good as the students want it to be. At UNC some people make a big deal of supporting the team come what may even when the team is not showing any effort and coasting through. To give an example, earlier this year when Singler was having trouble scoring, the Duke Chronicle published an editorial saying the K should bench Singler, which of course drew K&#039;s ire and rightly so. Now look at our team and the people who are in the starting lineup, their numbers and the way they played. Not once did anyone write anything criticizing any of the players. Instead, the entire repertoire of some players IMO is built on myths based on &lt;a href=&quot;http://tarheelblue.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/112909aaa.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;fawning articles like this one&lt;/a&gt;. While that might be very noble, it also creates a false sense of security in some of the players who are less willing to improve their game. Just as cajoling can be used to motivate players, fear is a good motivator as well. If the players are unwilling to improve their overall game and don&#039;t take responsibility for their poor performance repeatedly, I think their status on the team should be re-evaluated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the team is also sometimes as good as the students want it to be. At UNC some people make a big deal of supporting the team come what may even when the team is not showing any effort and coasting through. To give an example, earlier this year when Singler was having trouble scoring, the Duke Chronicle published an editorial saying the K should bench Singler, which of course drew K&#8217;s ire and rightly so. Now look at our team and the people who are in the starting lineup, their numbers and the way they played. Not once did anyone write anything criticizing any of the players. Instead, the entire repertoire of some players IMO is built on myths based on <a href="http://tarheelblue.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/112909aaa.html" rel="nofollow">fawning articles like this one</a>. While that might be very noble, it also creates a false sense of security in some of the players who are less willing to improve their game. Just as cajoling can be used to motivate players, fear is a good motivator as well. If the players are unwilling to improve their overall game and don&#8217;t take responsibility for their poor performance repeatedly, I think their status on the team should be re-evaluated.</p>
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		<title>By: 850inExile aka UNC RAJ</title>
		<link>http://www.tarheelblog.com/2010/03/change/comment-page-2/#comment-41955</link>
		<dc:creator>850inExile aka UNC RAJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 17:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roy needs to ask these guys why they came to UNC.  Heck, if I could say something to these to their face, I do exactly that.  I&#039;d ask them &quot;Why did you even come to UNC?&quot;  I&#039;d ask them straight up: If you didn&#039;t come to UNC to play hard against Dook then why did you come to UNC?  If they didn&#039;t come to UNC to fight hard against every ACC team then why did you come to UNC?  If you didn&#039;t come to UNC to take everybody&#039;s best shot and hit them right back then why did you come to UNC?  If you didn&#039;t come to UNC to embrace the teachings of a HOF coach then why did you come to UNC?  Or did you expect it to be easy?  Maybe you just came to UNC to enjoy the ride while somebody else won a National Championship for you?  Was that what you were expecting when you came here?  Some other player would bust their butt to carry on UNC&#039;s 100 year legacy and you&#039;d just hang around to share the limelight?  Is that why you came to UNC?  Then, the other question I&#039;d ask them is &quot;Why are you still here?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roy needs to ask these guys why they came to UNC.  Heck, if I could say something to these to their face, I do exactly that.  I&#8217;d ask them &#8220;Why did you even come to UNC?&#8221;  I&#8217;d ask them straight up: If you didn&#8217;t come to UNC to play hard against Dook then why did you come to UNC?  If they didn&#8217;t come to UNC to fight hard against every ACC team then why did you come to UNC?  If you didn&#8217;t come to UNC to take everybody&#8217;s best shot and hit them right back then why did you come to UNC?  If you didn&#8217;t come to UNC to embrace the teachings of a HOF coach then why did you come to UNC?  Or did you expect it to be easy?  Maybe you just came to UNC to enjoy the ride while somebody else won a National Championship for you?  Was that what you were expecting when you came here?  Some other player would bust their butt to carry on UNC&#8217;s 100 year legacy and you&#8217;d just hang around to share the limelight?  Is that why you came to UNC?  Then, the other question I&#8217;d ask them is &#8220;Why are you still here?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: BuonRotto</title>
		<link>http://www.tarheelblog.com/2010/03/change/comment-page-2/#comment-41954</link>
		<dc:creator>BuonRotto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 17:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>850, I&#039;m with you, meaning that I was also not really down on the team until they had nothing to give in the Duke game.  Now I&#039;m very down on them too.

I dunno though.  I just look at each guy and like each one, their talent, their demeanor, etc.  I won&#039;t jump to conclusions about things like Deon&#039;s lack of outward &quot;fire&quot;, Ed&#039;s poker face (in the classical sense of that term), Drew&#039;s body language, or Marcus&#039;s lack of production.  I think some guys are low-key and that&#039;s fine.  Some guys are down and show it, and I can understand.  Some guys try really hard but don&#039;t have much to show for it.  They each seem like good guys with good skills and are trying to get some perspective and dealing with a tough season.  I didn&#039;t see any one individual quitting*** per se.  They each seemed to try, but I think they just don&#039;t believe in each other, and either think they have to try to do everything themselves or are waiting for someone else to join them on the same page. I won&#039;t assume anything worse about them or their skills as individuals, but they simply do not cohere either in execution or attitude.


*** OK, sitting here thinking about it, I think what I saw was a player or two &quot;quitting&quot; like when I got really exasperated with the rental wet saw I tried to use yesterday.  You could see how frustrated and dejected Drew was, and it was more obvious for him since he&#039;s on camera so much.  I can be angry at this team, but I can completely relate to his individual state of mind then.  I just can&#039;t bring myself to point a finger at him or any other individual.

This does, however, come back to  my one criticism of Roy which is to use the timeout a bit more often to just get guys&#039; heads straight again on occasion.  I think the sub-out and expecting them to collect themselves while the game passes in front of them is asking too much of most folks.  That one conceit of Roy&#039;s, however, is not enough of a reason to scapegoat him either.

Everyone is responsible, and while the individual may be in it, the team clearly isn&#039;t.  I don&#039;t know what else to say about that, or how to fix that, so I&#039;ll shut up now. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>850, I&#8217;m with you, meaning that I was also not really down on the team until they had nothing to give in the Duke game.  Now I&#8217;m very down on them too.</p>
<p>I dunno though.  I just look at each guy and like each one, their talent, their demeanor, etc.  I won&#8217;t jump to conclusions about things like Deon&#8217;s lack of outward &#8220;fire&#8221;, Ed&#8217;s poker face (in the classical sense of that term), Drew&#8217;s body language, or Marcus&#8217;s lack of production.  I think some guys are low-key and that&#8217;s fine.  Some guys are down and show it, and I can understand.  Some guys try really hard but don&#8217;t have much to show for it.  They each seem like good guys with good skills and are trying to get some perspective and dealing with a tough season.  I didn&#8217;t see any one individual quitting*** per se.  They each seemed to try, but I think they just don&#8217;t believe in each other, and either think they have to try to do everything themselves or are waiting for someone else to join them on the same page. I won&#8217;t assume anything worse about them or their skills as individuals, but they simply do not cohere either in execution or attitude.</p>
<p>*** OK, sitting here thinking about it, I think what I saw was a player or two &#8220;quitting&#8221; like when I got really exasperated with the rental wet saw I tried to use yesterday.  You could see how frustrated and dejected Drew was, and it was more obvious for him since he&#8217;s on camera so much.  I can be angry at this team, but I can completely relate to his individual state of mind then.  I just can&#8217;t bring myself to point a finger at him or any other individual.</p>
<p>This does, however, come back to  my one criticism of Roy which is to use the timeout a bit more often to just get guys&#8217; heads straight again on occasion.  I think the sub-out and expecting them to collect themselves while the game passes in front of them is asking too much of most folks.  That one conceit of Roy&#8217;s, however, is not enough of a reason to scapegoat him either.</p>
<p>Everyone is responsible, and while the individual may be in it, the team clearly isn&#8217;t.  I don&#8217;t know what else to say about that, or how to fix that, so I&#8217;ll shut up now. <img src='http://www.tarheelblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: makeitWayne22</title>
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		<dc:creator>makeitWayne22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 16:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Roy needs to inspire these kids for the future, just play a tape of the Half time show, where all the talking heads at ESPN clowned on UNC, and if that doesnt make them mad, they need to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Roy needs to inspire these kids for the future, just play a tape of the Half time show, where all the talking heads at ESPN clowned on UNC, and if that doesnt make them mad, they need to go.</p>
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		<title>By: carolinablue74</title>
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		<dc:creator>carolinablue74</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 16:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^ That unfortunately (or fortunately) is a personality trait. K runs his team like a business operation holding his players accountable. He still puts a lot of emphasis on practices and is not beyond playing favorites with certain players over others. But that said he does identify players who are willing to rise up to the challenge, Scheyer being a prime example.

Roy takes his mentorship role differently, however being human he also plays favorites to certain players over others. I don&#039;t know the dynamics of his relationship with his players, but I bet this season will make him take a long, hard look at his role as the steward of this program. I don&#039;t think any player will be able to coast through year in and year out without showing effort, not just in practice, but on the court as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^ That unfortunately (or fortunately) is a personality trait. K runs his team like a business operation holding his players accountable. He still puts a lot of emphasis on practices and is not beyond playing favorites with certain players over others. But that said he does identify players who are willing to rise up to the challenge, Scheyer being a prime example.</p>
<p>Roy takes his mentorship role differently, however being human he also plays favorites to certain players over others. I don&#8217;t know the dynamics of his relationship with his players, but I bet this season will make him take a long, hard look at his role as the steward of this program. I don&#8217;t think any player will be able to coast through year in and year out without showing effort, not just in practice, but on the court as well.</p>
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