Is that athletic enough for you?  Barnes definitely took Williams to school, the problem is that Barnes was there to learn and Williams was the guest speaker.  This writer just got educated about Big Ten BB this year.  The Big Ten is by far the best conference in the country this year.  OSU and MSU are on another level and both are top 5 teams, but Ill, Wis, MN, Pur, Mich all could be rated in the top 25 this year  I think the B10 will send 7 teams to the NCAA tourney this year.  MN is simply a more talented team than NC this year, even without one of their 3 best players on the bench (Joseph) due to a suspension.  The Gophers are a top 15 team this year, the rest of the country just doesn't know it yet.