Thus ends the individual portion of our program.
The NCAA has ruled that junior DE Michael McAdoo and FB Devon Ramsay permanently ineligible due to academic infractions. UNC plans to appeal the decision.
North Carolina will appeal the decision to the Committee on Student-Athlete Reinstatement, an independent panel comprised of representatives from NCAA member colleges, universities and athletic conferences. This committee can reduce or remove the condition. The student-athletes remain ineligible until the conclusion of the appeals process.
“While we respect the decision, the facts of the cases simply do not support permanent ineligibility,” says Dick Baddour, North Carolina Director of Athletics. “We will aggressively appeal and are hopeful the reinstatement committee will reach the same conclusion.”
A junior from Red Bank, N.J., Ramsay played in the first four games of the 2010 season and had two catches for 15 yards, including a touchdown vs. LSU. He was withheld from competition beginning with the Clemson game on Oct. 9 and has not returned. The NCAA enforcement staff will not require UNC to forfeit the two games in which Ramsay played this year.
One major question hanging out there since Ramsay was held out prior to the Clemson game is whether UNC would have to forfeit wins in which he played should the NCAA do exactly what they have done. Fortunately for UNC the answer is “Yeah, you can keep ‘em.” Whether that is a rare moment of mercy from the NCAA or an admission they screwed up is anyone’s guess.
The other question is why the NCAA authorized the use of nuclear weapons for these two and none of the other academic infractions which appeared to have all be handled internally? You answer via WTVD’s Mark Armstrong:
Okay – got the info. Both McAdoo and Ramsay used improper ‘help’ from Wiley while she was employed by UNC – hence NCAA deathblow….
Other academic casualties got help from Wiley not only after she was released from UNC, but also AFTER her continued employment with Butch.
There has always been a question of when the academic infractions occurred or rather did any occur while Jennifer Wiley was still working for UNC. In the case of all the others, it was after her time at UNC but in the case of these two it was while Ms. Wiley was still working at UNC. Remember, it is not an NCAA issue if a student-athlete receives improper academic assistance on their own from a third party not employed by the school. If a member of the academic support staff or a professor or really anyone else working for UNC renders illicit help the NCAA’s ethical conduct bylaw comes into play which is the case here.
UNC had decided to appeal the decisions which means Dick Baddour and the gang think the NCAA was too harsh in the punishment. Given an appeal probably will not be heard until next week, we can assume the appeal is about saving next season for both players. McAdoo and Ramsay are juniors which means they have another season even if they lose this one to NCAA penalties. What UNC will basically be asking for here is for the NCAA to reduce the penalty from permanent ineligibility to a year suspension making it possible for both to play next season.
In terms of the big picture, this is not exactly good news. I had hoped that Ms. Wiley’s illicit academic assistance had all transpired after she departed UNC meaning this was less of an FSU situation. It is still not the same magnitude as what happened at FSU nor can you say it was anything other than just a lone rogue tutor. However the fact some of this went on while Ms. Wiley was at UNC makes it institutional issue creating the potential for harsher program penalties when that time comes.
With McAdoo and Ramsay’s cases decided all players previously held out of action by UNC have had the statuses resolved. For a full rundown of all sixteen cases check out our player tracker here.
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Good News is UNC let Ms. Wiley go when it appeared she was getting to close to players in the football program.
Bad News during that point is when UNC should have investigated the situation and identified that she had provided improper assistance to Ramsey and McAdoo. And how was Ramsey missed in the initial investigation that held out players during the first 4 weeks of the season?
I wouldn’t use the phrase “Lack of Institutional Control” yet, but this definitely has the appearance of not promoting an atmosphere of ‘compliance’. Hopefully, the Blake issue doesn’t push it over the top.
I just wished these guys had JUST beaten up elderly bus drivers so they’d still be eligible to play.
the details would be nice.
and the University’s written rules for a tutor are absolutely clear.
what would be the normal oversight to make sure those rules are being followed? i dont know what you can do other than take notice if you see or hear she is giving rides or money or whatever. but good luck seeing and hearing any of that.
you didnt, and arguably couldnt, notice your player take a summer trip to LA and go to Disneyland, so how are you going to notice what that player’s tutor is doing?
if there was academic help, where is the TA or professor paying attention to changes in work, or noting assignment work vs classroom participation and work?
None of this changes the fact that I will be rooting like heck for Texas A & M on Thanksgiving!!!!
“if there was academic help, where is the TA or professor paying attention to changes in work, or noting assignment work vs classroom participation and work?”
HTTE: in the realm of possibilities, it is much more likely that with the number of players involved, and by extension the number of said TA’s or Prof’s, that someone in fact DID notice, and came forward (in some fashion). now IF that happened (and I think it did), how was it handled, or not handled? and if not handled, did it come out (forced) during the NCAA’s initial investigation of the agent/jewelry issue? IE–”either you guys bring this into the light right now, or I will”!
No matter–the curtain is coming down soon on this sordid mess, and the 12 step program will commence. Gonna be a heavy hammer, but anyone who couldn’t see this coming after this progression just wasn’t looking.
^that doesnt seem to be the way it all came out. it seems it came out because a player brought up the tutor’s name in connection with the agent probe in regard to some trip or a favor, and then UNC said, wait, what was that name?
all those guys, the different classes, and the academic “help”, and no one saw an anomaly with a paper? hm.
^Well, we also don’t know which classes we are talking about. When I was at UNC class sizes ranged from 30 to 100 or maybe even 200(?) (how many people does that huge classroom in Hamilton Hall hold?). If this happened in one of the larger classes where a professor or TA has to grade hundreds of papers then I don’t know how practical it would be to expect them to notice changes in a particular student’s writing style from one paper to the next (especially since in many classes I took I only handed in written assignments a couple times a month)
^That room in Hamilton holds over 400 I believe, which is just ridiculous for a class size (but great if you need to “miss” a class sometime). I actually had a physics class one time where I was the only student. Needless to say I couldn’t skip that one.
^^convenient eh? just sayin….
i guess it could be something like that. i dont recall having any classes of 200 or more once i was a Junior/Senior.
well, I certainly don’t KNOW, but the same thought occurred to me early on—just too many similarities between this and the Jimmy V situation many moons ago.
^^But did the cheating take place when they were Juniors/Seniors, or did it happen when they were freshmen or sophomores but we didn’t find out about until they were Juniors/Seniors?